(1.) The REPORTS and MEMORANDA of the COMMISSIONERS;
and

(2.) The ORAL INQUIRY.

Presented to both Houses of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty.

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1884.

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CONTENTS.

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Text of Commission

Report signed by the Earl of Derby, the Duke of Bedford, Viscount Sherbrooke, Lord Coleridge, Sir

Sydney H. Waterlow, Mr. Pell, Mr. Walter James, Mr. Firth, and Mr. Burt

Appendix to Report: Notes by Messrs. Horace Davey and F. Vaughan Hawkins

"Dissent" Report signed by Sir Richard Cross, Sir N. de Rothschild, and Mr. Alderman Cotton

Protest of Mr. Alderman Cotton

Observations by Mr. Firth

Memorandum by Mr. Firth

Memorandum by Mr. Burt

ORAL INQUIRY, PARLIAMENTARY SESSION, 1882.

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Evidence of Mr. Thomas Hare (H.M.'s Senior Inspector of Charities, who attended at the request of the

Commissioners)

Evidence of Mr. Henry Longley (one of H.M.'s Commissioners of Charities, who attended at the request

of the Commissioners)

Evidence of Mr. J. R. Phillips (who appeared to support the views of Mr. Firth)

Evidence of Mr. W. Gilbert (who requested to be examined) -

Evidence of Sir George Young, Dr. Wood, Dr. Williamson, F.R.S., and Mr. Henry Morley (a Deputa-

tion from University College, London)

Meniorial of University College, London

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175

183

Evidence of the Lord Chancellor and Sir F. Bramwell, F.R.S. (a Deputation from the City and Guilds

of London Technical Institute)

Evidence of Mr. W. Spottiswoode, F.R.S. (a Deputation from the City and Guilds of London Technical

Institute)

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198

Evidence of the Rev. Canon Barry, Professors Adams, Shelley, and Wiltshire, Mr. Serocold, Treasurer,
and Mr. Cunningham, Secretary (a Deputation from King's College, London)

Memorial of King's College, London

Evidence of Dr. Todd, the Rev. Mr. McCay, Mr. Andrew Brown, Mr. Robert Stewart, Mr. Robert

Dunn, the Rev. Mr. Brown, and Professor Dougherty (a Deputation claiming to represent the tenants

on the Ulster estates)

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213

Appendix to evidence relating to Ulster estates

235

Evidence of the Rev. Mr. Rogers, Mr. Cooke, and Professor Dougherty (a Deputation from Magee

College, Londonderry)

247

Evidence of the Right Hon. G. J. Göschen, M.P. (a Deputation from the London Society for the

Extension of University Teaching)

Memorandum of the Merchant Taylors' Company (as to certain statements made by Mr. Beal,

Mr. Phillips, and other witnesses examined during 1882 with reference to the Merchant Taylors'

Company)

Statement by Grocers' Company (as to certain statements made by Mr. Beal, Mr. Phillips, and other

witnesses examined during 1882 relating to the Grocers' Company, and as to certain views expressed

by Mr. Firth in "Municipal London")

Evidence of Mr. J. H. Warner (who appeared on behalf of the Grocers' Company)

Evidence of Sir F. Bramwell, F.R.S. (who appeared on behalf of the Goldsmiths' Company)

Letter of Mr. Prideaux, on behalf of the Goldsmiths' Company, to the Commissioners (criticizing

certain statements made by Mr. Beal, Mr. Phillips, and other witnesses during 1882, and also the

views expressed by Mr. Firth in "Municipal London ")

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Statement of the Goldsmiths' Company (with reference to the same matters)

Evidence of Mr. Prideaux (who appeared on behalf of the Goldsmiths' Company)

Evidence of Mr. T. H. Fordham, Mr. W. C. Venning, and Mr. J. T. Smith (representing the Fishmongers' Company)

Statement of the Fishmongers' Company (with reference to statements made by witnesses from Ulster in 1882)

Evidence of Mr. Graves and Mr. Beaumont (representing the Cutlers' Company) with reference to a passage in Mr. Firth's work " Municipal London

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Evidence of Mr. E. Gregory, Mr. W. H. Townsend, Mr. White, Mr. Wyld, Mr. Neate, and Mr. Owen Roberts (representing the Cloth workers' Company)

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Observations by the Clothworkers' Company (with reference to statements made by Mr. Beal, Mr. Phillips, and other witnesses examined during 1882, and also as to the views expressed by Mr. Firth in "Municipal London ")

Further observations by the Cloth workers' Company

Evidence of Mr. Dalton, Mr. Jennings, and Mr. Sawyer (representing the Drapers' Company) Evidence of Mr. Hill, Mr. Le Gros Clark, Mr. Hicks, Mr. Eaton, M.P., Mr. Alderman Fowler, M.P., and Mr. E. L. Scott (representing the Salters' Company)

333

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Evidence of Mr. Barron, Mr. Bevan, Mr. Horner, Mr. Price, Mr. Gribble, and Mr. Beck (representing the Ironmongers' Company and certain Companies associated with it in the management of Ulster estates)

Evidence of Mr. Miles, Mr. John Miles, Mr. Layton, and Mr. Rivington (representing the Stationers' Company)

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347

Evidence of Mr. Sauer and Mr. Upton (representing the Society of Apothecaries)

Evidence of Dr. Ramsay and Major Harding (representing the Needlemakers' Company)
Evidence of Mr. Compton (representing the Horners' Company)

Statement by the same (as to the Company's Irish estate and the evidence given by the Ulster witnesses in 1882)

353

Statement by the Salters' Company (as to the evidence given by the Ulster witnesses in 1882)
Statement by the Society of Apothecaries

Memorial of the Skinners' Company (as to the Ulster estate of the Company and the evidence given by the Ulster witnesses in 1882)