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Committee appointed to take that subject into confideration.

Mr. Corry was glad that he would now have it in his power to fatisfy the right hon. Gentleman and the Committee in that refpect, as he could affure him that they would be prefented the next day, many of them having come over that day.

The Committee on the Irish revenue regulation bill was deferred till Friday.

The Secretary at War brought up the report of the Committee appointed to take into confideration the amendments. of the Lords in the volunteer bill: and having moved that the report be taken into confideration, a converfation took place between Mr. Whitbread, Mr. Secretary Yorke, and the Secretary at War, when

The Speaker begged leave to inform the Houfe, that according to precedents the proper mode of the Houfe's fignifying their diffent from any amendments made by the Lords was to appoint a Committee to draw up reafons for their diffent, to be prefented to the Lords, unless they propofed to reject a bill in toto, which could only be done, he apprehended, in bills of fupply or of ways and means. It remained, however, for the Houfe to confider whether they would reject the bill in toto, or adopt the measure prefcribed in fuch inftances, by the precedents of the Houfe.

The report was then ordered for confideration on Monday next, and on the motion of Mr. Whitbread, ordered to be printed.

A meffage was received from the Lords announcing their concurrence with the Irish linen manufacture regulation bill, and fome private bills.

Admiral Berkeley stated that he had repeatedly come down to the House, in hopes of feeing fome one of the Lords of the Admiralty in his place, that he might have an opportu nity of putting a question which he thought of fome importance. The queftion was relative to the return of marines. He wished to know if the 15,000 marines, were to be confidered as over and above the 84,000 that had been returned? If Minifters were not prepared for this queftion, he hoped that fome of the Lords of the Admiralty would come down. to answer it.

Mr. Tierney expreffed his readinefs to inform the hon. Admiral. The 15,000, he could affure the hon. Admiral, were exclufive of the other. The one is ftated, the right hon.

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Gent'eman added, from the Navy Office, and the other from the weekly returns; but the two are to be added, making in al upwards of a hu red thouf nd.

M. Fcx rofe to inform the oufe that as he understood from authority that no fatisfactory answer would be given to the question he had roposed to put to Miniers that night refpe ing the tran ports that were taken up for conveying the troops from Hanover to this country, he would then give notice, that on edne day next he would formally move for the produ tn of fuch papers as related to this fubje, with the dates particularly of tak ng up thofe tranfport the dates of their failing, and the terms of their engagement.

Mr. Add ngton faw no good reafon for hurrying a motion. of that nature, and would therefore with the hon Gentleman to poftp n it till fom after day.

M. Fo did not fee that any reasonable objecti n could be entertained to the motion or to the day of which he had given

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The Houfe having refolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means,

Mr. Corry aid it was not his intention to trefpafs on the time of the Houfe more than a few minutes. During the progrefs of the feffion a great part of the fupplies for Ireland had been voted, and his object for rifing at prefent, was to state that the permanent charges on the confolidated fund of Ireland and the votes of fupply having confiderably exceeded the ways and means for anfwering them, it had been thought advisable to propɔse to raise a part of the ways and means by a loan in Ireland to the amount of 1,250,000l. It was impoffible for him at that moment to go into a general statement of the charges upon Ireland for the whole year; for though many of them were voted, yet others were not: he muft, therefore, defer fuch general statement until the whole were voted. At prefent he fhould only ftate as part of fuch ways and means, the loan which had been agreed for to the amount before mentioned in Ireland, subject to the approbation of Pa liament. This loan was bid for in the five per cent flock, and the intereft, according to the terms, was to commence on the 25th of March laft, and the discount of five pe cent was allowed on anticipated payments according to the practice in his country. On the 20th of April the loan was contracted for in Dublin; for every 1ool., 1121. 75. 3d.

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ftock was granted. The money to be raised therefore, being 1,250,000l. the stock created would be 1,404,000l. The interest to be paid for each 10ol. received was 51. 12s. 4d. which with the finking fund of 12 per cent, would make the whole annual charge, 84.2711. On the day of the bidding, the five per cent. ftock in Ireland was at 90, and the loan. was taken at 89; that is to fay within one per cent. of the market price of the flocks that day. Having thus ftated the terms of the loan, which he hoped would prove fatisfactory, it was unneceffary for him to occupy the attention of the Houfe any longer, except merely to remark that on the day the loan was made in Ireland at 89, the Irith five per cents. in London were only 80, which certainly was a most aftonishing difference, and clearly proved that the loan was made on terms advantageous to the public. He then concluded (after giving notice that he hoped next week to be able to go into the general statement of the ways and means for ireland) with moving the ufual refolution refpecting the loan, which was agreed to.

ARMY ESTIMATES.

On the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the House refolved into a Committee of Supply, and the different estimates relative to the army being referred to the Committee,

The Secretary at War role to move the neceffary grants under the head of military services. The estimates now to be voted were, he faid, the fupplementary ones, and, with the exception of the charges for the militia of Ireland, not now included, the estimates for the prefent year were of the fame nature as those of the laft. The estimate for the pay and clothing of volunteer was 730,000l. The telt were much as before, and the only thing added, was for foreign corps. With refpect to the augmentation f the army already propofed, by an addition of new battalions, it had been flared fo full to the Houfe on a former night, as to render any detail on the fubject now unnece!fary There are, befides, certain additional corps for the service of both Great Britain and Ireland, the estimate of which, for the former, was 130,000l. and that for the latter 70,000l. The only other item, which it seemed pa ticularly eceffary to notice, was the foreign corps. In the last year, the House voted for the continuance of feveral foreign regiments in our fervice, as De Rolle's, the Queen's German regiment, and fome others; the only addition now

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is, the Queen's German legion, confifting of 5,000 Hanove rian troops, of which number 4000 are already raised, and the remainder expected to be completed in a little time, all disciplined men, and well ufed to fervice. The whole of thefe foreign troops together, would make 7 or 8,000 men, and those the only ones included in the prefent estimate. The next item on which there was a difference from the eftimate of last year, was the allowance to innkeepers in Scotland, and which the nature of the public fervices, and the circumstances of that country confidered, he trusted would appear reasonable. The rest of the items were in the ordinary courfe, and not requiring any particular obfervation. Under the head of barracks in Ireland was 461,800l. The next item was for the new military establishments in this country, the Royal Military College and Afylum; the one for educating young men, the fons of officers, defirous of a regular military education, with a view to the fervice; the other, for the children of foldiers, who may have fallen in the defence of their country. The fum neceffary to complete the buildings was 32,600l. In the latter establishment, it was intended to provide for 1000 children, but the number as yet did not exceed 600; and the former required fome new arrangements;under its prefent regulations it was required that 401. should be paid with each pupil indifcriminately; but this, even though a small fum, was found to be incompatible with the circumstances of many deferving officers who were defirous of benefiting by the inftitution; and, therefore, it was intended too pen the establishment upon a scale of expence, proportioned to the circumftances of the parents, and to educate gratis thofe who could not afford to pay any thing: befide, as it was defirable to add the advantages of an ordinary education to those of a military one, it was intended to accommodate both under the fame roof, and provide apartments for mafters, &c. and form a fimilar arrangement to that at Great Marlow. There was one more head, under which the expence was indeed of very confiderable magnitude; namely, that of barracks. But though the fum was undoubtedly large, yet when it was confidered, that by fuch an arrangement there would be a very confiderable faving under the head of lodging-money, barrack-hire, ftabling, &c. he trufted the faving would in a very great degree warrant the expence. The hire of barracks in the last year already coft 1,250,000l.; and in the barracks already built, there was accommodation for 26,000 troops in cantonments along the coaft, and the ef

timate for the new barracks was 1,534,000l. including premifes purchased. The contract was now before the House, and was framed from a plan which met the approbation of military men of the first experience. The works were to be fubject to the control of a barrack-master, who was to judge and check every proceeding of the contractor, and without whofe certificate no money was to be paid to any contractor. Befides this the public would be completely guarded against any lofs for wafte of time, extraordinary wages, or debts contracted, as the work was to be meafured, and both that and the materials paid for at the ordinary rate of the vicinage where fuch buildings were to be erected, unless it were in very remote fituations where extraordinary expedition fhould be required, and where it would be but juft to make a reasonable allowance, when the contractor was unavoidably fubjected to extraordinary expence, either in conveying his men to a confiderable distance, or paying an extraordinary price for materials or labour. Having ftated thus much for the fatisfaction of the Committee, he thould be ready to give any further explanation which Gentlemen might require. He concluded with moving the firft refolution.

Mr. Francis inquired if, in the prefent estimates, the forces in India were comprehended?

The Secretary at War replied, that they would appear by the accounts to be included.

Mr. Francis remarked on the inconfiftency in the reafoning of the right hon. Gentleman in refpect to the barracks. The expence had exceeded all reasonable computation, and deferved the ferious attention of the Houfe; the extent of the charge did not at all correspond with the expedients stated to have been reforted to for the purposes of public economy, and if fome fatisfactory explanation were not given, he should think it right to fubmit the abuses which had prevailed to the attention of the House.

The Secretary at War faid, among the more weighty charges on the barrack establishment was the conftruction of barracks on the coast; and it was conceived that this meafure, on a variety of accounts, would fave a very confiderable expence in adjacent encampments. It is rather premature to give any decifive opinion on the total charge in this important and neceffary fervice, as the accounts are not yet made up, by which that opinion must be guided. With regard to the execution of the works, if the right hon, Gentleman entertains any doubts on that subject, it

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