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Mr. URBAN,

***** BEG an early infertion of fuch anfwer as I can give to the feveral enquiries of your correfpondent J. N. in p. 980. Mr. Bridges has not deduced a regular fucceffion of the Roffes at Stoke d'Albini; but I conceive Jobn, whom your correfpondent enquires after, to be a grandfon of Robert, who acquired this manor by marriage with Ifabel, heirefs of Albini, and fecond fon of William de Ros by Maud de Vaux. A particular account of him may be feen in Dugd. Bar. I. 549, when he is called "a perfon eminent in his time." He was of the party of Queen Ifabel and the others, whom Edward II, at the inftigation of the Spenfers, had banished. He landed with her and the prince 20 Edward II; and, being in great favour with the young king, Edward III, was, on the depofal of his father, conftituted stew ard of his household in the first year of his reign, and employed in Scotland, accompanied by his brother Thomas (whom, by the-bye, Dugdale omits in the preceding page). He was one of the twelve lords by whom it was refolved the king in his minority fhould be governed. 2 Edward III. he was governor of Somerton cafle, in Lincolnthire; and 7 Edw. III. was in Scotland with his father; 10 Edw. III. was conftituted admiral of the fea from the Thames Northward; 11 Edw. III. was in Gafcoigne, and had a grant of free warren on his lands in Nottingham and Oxford hires; 12 Edw. III. an allow ance was made on his petition to be reimbursed the expence of arraying men while he was admiral and employed beyond fea. He had fummons to parliament from 1 to 11 Edw. III, but died before the end of the next year without iffue, and his brother William became heir to his eftates in

1 Lel. Coll. I. 684. Kuighton, p. 2556.

I think we have here authority enough for concluding this John to be the bon (not bonne) compagnon here recorded. His chearful or convivial turn might recommend him to Prince Edward, or a diftinguished spirit of gallantry to his mother. In fhort, he might be what we now call a fhrewd clever fellow; and it appears, from the feanty circumstances in which he died, that he was no great economist. Perhaps he spent more on the tower of Stoke Albini church than he could afford, at least if the tradition be true that he was founder of the church, and the Ros to whom the arms on the South fide of the tower are to be appropriated; or, as he seems to have been a favourite with his brother, the lord of the manor, he may have honoured his memory by a cenotaph in this church, or by allowing him to refide on his manfion here: for his father and anceftors lived at Kirkham, in Yorkshire.

This John will have been great great grandfon of Robert, furnamed Furfan, whofe monument in the Temple churchs fhews him to have been a handsome man, and perhaps alfo a good companion.

Sir Robert de Ros was appointed, 1442, to treat for a marriage of Henry VI. with a daughter of the Count of Armagnac 6. Being one of the king's carvers, he was fent on an embassy to France 14447.

2 Wallingham, 12 Edward 111.
3 Parkyns, V. 931, 950.
4 I. 586.
5 Sepulch. Mon. of G. B. I. 41, pl. V. 3-
6 Rymer, XI. 7.

7 Ib 53, 80, 196, 206, 210, 214, 216, 223.

At the installation of Abp. Warham the office of chamberlain was claimed by Bartholomew Lord Badlefmere in right of his manor of Hatefield, near Cherrings, held of the Archbishop by that fervice $. This is the manor of Hotefield, now Hothfield, in the hundred of Chart and Longbridge, in Kent, held in fee of the Crown by grant of Edward II. to Bartholomew de Badlefmere, who appears to have held it by grand fergeanty of the Abp. of Canterbury; and, 8 Edward II. claimed, and was allowed, to perform the office of great chamberlain to Abp. Reynolds, and ferve up water for him to wath his hands; his fee for which was the furniture of the room, and the bafon and towel: but there are fome doubts about his claim to this fervice in the record in Batteley; which fee; and Hafted's Kent, III. 252, and note. The manor was forfeited to the Crown by this Bartholomew, who was attainted and hanged; but it was restored by Edward III. to his fon Giles; who dying without iffue 12 Edward II. his eftate devolved to his four fifters; and this manor fell to the fare of Margaret, wife of William Lord Ros of Hamlake, whofe defcendants held it till the reign of Edward IV. 9

Elizabeth, Lady Ros, whofe monument, engraved in Dart's Weftminfter Abbey, 1. 29, is mounted over Brocas' tomb, died 1591. Cecilia was fecond wife and relict of Francis, 6th Earl of Rutland, and one of the daughters of Sir John Tufton, father of the firft Earl of Thanet, and owner of Hothe field manor abovementioned, by grant from Henry VIII. at the end of his reign 10. The only and indeed beft authority for burying this lady in St. Nicholas's chapel, Weftminster, is the regifler of the church; and it is probable the might be depofited with, or near, a former branch of the fame family, though not, like her, honoured with a monument from John the eighth earl, who, being of a different branch of the

which were tranflated from Belvoir priory at the diffolution (as 'tis said), as of the earls of Rutland fince." And it appears from the Hiftory of Nottinghamfhire, p. 114, that Sir William had prepared a particular Hiftory of the Lords of Belvoir," which in 1679 was nearly ready for the prefs. Qu. In whofe poffeffion are thofe drawings, or Dugdale's MS History?

I conclude by wifhing Mr. J. N. may obtain a good picture of him to decorate the Hiftory of Leicesterfire; for which, if I can smell a rat, I prefume it to be deftined. The fame good office would not be ill-beftowed on a Knight-tempiar, perhaps of this family, whofe ftatue, probably removed from the ruins of Kirkham" or Rievaulx monaftery, where the Roffes were buried till the middle of the 15th century, is placed on a pedestal on a piece of ground without the city of York, called Hobmoor, and faid to have been given to the city by one Hob, who perhaps was Robert I. lineal ancestor of John, and a great benefactor to the Knights-templars, among whom his grandfon Robert Furfan was buried. As the place of interment of Robert 1. and his fon Everard are not specified, we may fuppofe it was Ribflane, where the Templars founded a preceptory, and which is nearer York on the West than the other two houses on the Eafi 12.

When I was at York, 1785, I faw in Newgate-lane, fet up in the wall, a cross-legged figure, with a sound hel met, coat of mail, cushion under his head fupported by angels, fword at his left fide, on his fhoulder a cross patoncé under a barrulet, fuppofed a younger brother of the Latimer family, who probably accompanied his relation in the croifades of Henry III. and Edward 1.13 I mention this ftatue only as a fimilar inftance with that abovementioned, and unnoticed by Mr. Drake, or any other York Antiquary; and am, Mr. Urban, yours and J. N's humble fervant, R. G.

8 Appendix to Batteley's Canterbury, No. XX. a. p. 26.

9 See Hafted, loc. cit.; fee alfo Dugdale, Bar. I. 549. 10 Hafted 111. 252.

Dec. 19.

Mr. URBAN, N Cantuaria Sacra, p. 59, it is related, that, at the inthroning of Abp. Camden, 111. 69, that the beautiful gate of 11. It appears from the new edition of Kirkham priory ftill remains, with ftatues and various armorial bearings. But I know not that any view has been published of them.

12 Drake's York, p. 398. 13 Dugd. 1. 30. 14 We hope fome friendly correfpondent at York will favour us with drawings and defcriptions of both thefe curious ftatues. Eur. Winchellea,

Winchelsea, Bartholomew Lord Badelefmere, in right of the manor of Hatfield, near Charing, fupported his claim to the office of chamberlain for that day. Mr. Batteley was, however, mistaken in the name of the manor, for it was not Hatfield, but Hothfield, in the hundred of Charing, &c.; which, fays Phillipot (Villare Cantianum, p. 1931, was held in grand ferjeanty of the Archbishop, and the condition was, to ferve up water to the Archbishop at his inthronization, and to be likewife his chamberlain on the night of his inftallment, Bartholomew de Badelefmere, writes the fame author, who was poffeffed of this manor in the reign of Edward the Third, dying without iffue, his four fitters became his co-heirs; and Margaret, who was one of them, being married to Lord William Ros, of Hamlake, the estate shus paffed into the inheritance of that family. This will account for Sir Robert de Ros's being deputed (as obferv. ed by J. N. p. 980) to officiate as chamberlain, in the minority of his nephew, when Abp. Stafford was inftalled.

The manor of Hothfield was granted in the reign of Henry VIII. to John Tufton, efq.; and the Earl of Thanet is now the proprietor of it.

The fecond wife of Francis, Earl of Rutland, was Cecily, daughter of Sir John Tufton, and widow of Sir Henry Hungerford. To the memory of Richard, third fon of Sir John Tufton, there is a monument in Weftminster. abbey between the chapels of St. Edmond and St. Nicholas; and, in the infcription, Cicely, Countefs of Rutland, is enumerated among the children of Sir John Tufton 15. It appears, by Collins, that he was buried in that church in 1643, after having 21 years furvived her husband, who died in December, 1632.

Collins (Earls of Stratford, p. 596,) informs us, that John Lord Rofs was flain with the Duke of Clarence at a battle in Anjou, Eafter eve, 9 Hen, V. Is it very improbable that he might be le bon compagnon concerning whom J. N. makes au enquiry? The contreres

be an imaginary furmife, it is certain that he had landed property in Stoke Daubeny, becaufe Margery, his young widow, held in dowry, with other eftates, a third part of the manor of Stoke Daubeny; and perhaps it may not be unknown to the Hiftorian of Leicesterfhire, that the had, by the fame tenure, two parts of the manor of Redmylde, in that county. Baugy, or Little Baugie, is tyled by Weever the name of the battle in which the Duke of Clarence was the firft perfon killed; and it appears, from the verfes he has cited from Harding, that Lord Roos and the other English officers who were flain were brought to England to be buried.

To fave the trouble of turning to the Funeral Monuments, pp. 212, 213, 2 copy of the lines alluded to is given :

The Lord Roos, and Syr John Lumley, And many other were with him flayne that [daye,

An brought the Lordes home fro thens full

fone:

That there lay flayne upon the feeld that daye
And buryed them in Englond in good araye
Elke one in his abbaye or colage
Afore founded within his heritage 16.

The ingenious and learned Mr. Milner, when writing of himself and of a prelate of his communion, ufes, I obferve (p. 997), the term Catholick, without a prefix; but very, very much difinclined am I to believe that a clergyman of his liberal turn of mind can harbour an idea that Proteftants are not, according to the obvious and true meaning of the word, Catholic members of the Church of Chrift univerfal. See p.811.

P. 1042. As not any place denominated Suteley occurs in Adams's Villare, may it not be reafonably prefumed that, in Leland's Itinerary, there is an error either in the MS. or of the prefs? and is it not likely that Sulby, a Premonftratenfian abbey, might be the religious house he meant to notice, as being in fome degree in the patronage of the Earl of Rutland? To give the more plaufibility to this furmile, it may be remarked, that, in Britan. Antiq. et Nov. III. 579, the word Sulby is faid to have been iometimes fpelt Suleby. W. & D.

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