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sect. ii. cap. xiii. "De Lapidibus minùs pretiosis variarum figurarum, Naturalia et Artificialia referentibus."

Bartholinus also has something on the subject, and Dr. Plot, in his History of Oxfordshire, makes mention of stones seen by him representing various parts of the body. WILLIAM BATES. Birmingham.

SWIFT'S VANESSA (4th S. iv. 533.)—For the information of MR. DE MESCHIN, I send you the following facts relative to Mr. Robert Marshall, Vanessa's executor, extracted from Smyth's Law Officers of Ireland: —

1737. 11 George II., 3rd Serjeant, pp. 197, 245.
1741. 15 ditto 2nd Serjeant, pp. 197, 246.
1751. 27 ditto Justice of Common Pleas, pp. 132,

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Resigned, pp. 132, 252.
EDWARD Foss.

KNIGHTHOOD AND FOREIGN ORDERS (4th S.
iv. 513.)-An Englishman upon whom a foreign
order of knighthood has been conferred, and
who has received the royal permission to accept
and wear the same, is not entitled to the appella-
tion "
Sir," a clause being inserted in all royal
warrants authorising such acceptance, expressly
providing that "such license shall not authorise
the assumption of any style, appellation, pre-
cedence, or privilege appertaining to a knight
bachelor of these realms." This regulation was
first adopted in 1813; previous to that date a
British subject invested with a foreign order and
receiving the royal sanction to wear it, usually
claimed and used the rank and appellation of a
knight bachelor. The whole question is discussed
in the preface to Townsend's Calendar of Knights,
to which I beg to refer your correspondent.

H. S. G. DR. HENRY SACHEVEREL (4th S. iv. 478, 551.) In Bromley's Catalogue of Engraved British Portraits (4to, Lond. 1793), p. 227, are enumerated fourteen different engraved portraits of Dr. Sache

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that Mr. Wright, the able secretary of the Percy Society, had a chap-book, printed at Glasgow in 1801 by J. and M. Robertson, Saltmarket, which, among others, contained "The Siege of Carrickfergus; or Thurot's Defeat." * As this defeat took place off the coast of this island, it naturally created considerable interest, and various songs were composed in the Manx language, which were great favourites at the time, and may occasionally at the present day be heard chanted forth in some of the country districts. I am endeavouring to rescue these from the oblivion which they appear to be fast fading into, along with other songs and ballads relating to the Isle of Man.

I may remark that MR. CARRE will find in Butler's Memoirs of Bishop Hildesley, 1799, some particulars of Captain Elliot's victory over Thurot. Any songs connected therewith I shall be most happy to see recorded in your pages.

Rock Mount, Isle of Man.

WILLIAM HARRISON.

TIZARD, A SURNAME (4th S. iv. 515.) - This may be the same as the French names Tizzard, Thizard, Thezard, Thézard, Thiessard, Desert, Désert, Dezert, Dissard, which would all seem to be patronymics, perhaps from one of the names This, Thisse, Theis, Théis, Thez, Tissé, Tisy, Dez, Dix, [conf. the diminutives Thezan, Thézal, Tisset, Tissol, Tison, Tisselin, Thisselin]; most of which are probably nicknames. But qu: the Old French dez, 10; dies, diez, dex, 2; dis, diz, the day; Dex, Diex, Diez, God. Tizard might even be equivalent to the name Godard = "Strong in God." R. S. CHARNOCK.

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JOHN WILKES IN ITALY, 1765 (4th S. iv. 530.) Here is part of an autograph letter of Wilkes's addressed from Naples to Mr. Suard on May 25, 1765, which fully coincides with that of Winckelmann to Heyne concerning Wilkes, who says:

E. V. ADMIRAL THUROT (4th S. iii. 557.) Your "I have been more deeply engaged than you would correspondent MR. RIDDELL CARRE, in his com- believe of a man of such volatile spirits as Nature has munication on "Border Ballad Scraps," inquires given me, attending to nothing but the two works I have after "Thurot's Defeat." Various songs have in hand-my edition of poor Churchill and the been written concerning the career of this cele-History of England.' I have almost finished Churchill, brated character. MR. CARRE will find one, with and I hope have done justice to the remains of a friend who still calls the tears into my eyes." many interesting particulars connected with it, communicated to the editor, the late T. Crofton Croker, by Mr. MacSkimin, in the Popular Songs illustrative of the French Invasions of Ireland, published by the Percy Society, 1846, under the name of "The Siege of Carrickfergus." It appears

The action took place on February 28, 1760, and near neighbour of mine, since deceased, often told me he

Thurot's three vessels were brought into Ramsey Bay. A perfectly remembered hearing the firing of the cannon during the engagement, and the excitement that prevailed.

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P. A. L. THE GUARDS' BANDS (4th S. iv. 513.)—The blacks in the Guards' bands, who played the bass drum, cymbals, tambourine, and bells, were introduced by the royal dukes who were colonels of these regiments in the latter part of the last century. Francis, the last of the blacks in the Grenadier Guards, was discharged in 1840; the Coldstream Guards got rid of theirs about the same time; and the last black in the Scots Fusilier Guards, who was a native of Martinique, was discharged in December, 1841. The distinctive dress-scarlet overalls and jacket with white sleeves, (but not the turban)-was retained in the band of the Scots Fusilier Guards till 1866.

HENRY F. PONSONBY,

Colonel and Major, Grenadier Guards. THE WHITE SWAN (4th S. iv. 515, 576.)—In connection with the supposition that the name of Fitz-Swanne is a corruption from Sweyn, it seems worth while to note the origin of Swanscombe in Sweyn's Camp. GEORGE BEDO.

Faversham.

I am obliged for the information about this bird, but unfortunately no instances are given of royal arms with such a supporter. If SIR GEORGE ARMYTAGE will refer to Willement he will find a doubt thrown on the statement that Henry IV. had any supporters at all, and I think it pretty clear that he had not; and no other example of a Sovereign using such a supporter is given in Willement or in the Harl. MSS.

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HENRY F. PONSONBY.

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FRASER RIVER (4th S. iv. 478.)-The following is extracted from a traveller's diary published in Mr. Matthew Macfie's Vancouver Island and British Columbia (Longmans, 1865), p. 225: "15th [May, 1863]. The Fraser winds its way through the Lilloet Valley, the river-bed being 190 feet below the plain. The land rises up from the river in terraces, level and regular; and these assume hues varying with the seasons. Probably the whole valley was once the basin of a lake whose waters subsided gradually, these benches being old water marks. On one of these terrace-like levels, on the right bank of the river, is the town of Lilloet; its altitude 1,036 feet."

JOHN HOSKYNS-ABRAHALL. Combe Vicarage, near Woodstock.

WHIPPING AT UNIVERSITIES (4th S. iv. 534.)— Your correspondent will find this passage in "The Customs and Manners of the English," an extract from Aubrey's MSS. in the Ashmolean Museum, given in Grose's Antiquarian Repertory, i. 74. It is an error, however, to identify the Dr. Potter named by Aubrey with John Potter the Archbishop of Canterbury. Aubrey speaks of Dr. Potter of his own college, Trinity, Oxford; whereas the archbishop was a member of University and Lincoln Colleges, some fifty years later. There are some strong assertions among the extracts given by Grose, but this is as incredible as any among them. HENRY T. RILEY.

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said in Dr. Samuel Johnson's Life of Milton. Your correspondent has omitted to notice what In the beginning of his fifteenth year the poet was sent to the University of Cambridge:

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THE EXNING Prx (4th S. iv. 513.) The Exning pyx was exhibited in 1845 at one of the meetings of the Archæological Institute by the Rev. Augustus Thorpe, of Chippenham. See vol. ii. 205. A description from the pen of Mr. T. F. Clark, late of Newmarket, with a drawing, is to be found in the first volume of The Proceedings of the Suffolk Archæological Institute. the account of the meeting 1845, it is stated that the pyx had been found at Chippenham. This is an error. I suspect also that the Rev. Augustus Tharp was the exhibitor, not Thorpe, as the name is spelt. If my conjecture be correct, an inquiry addressed to Chippenham, where the family of Tharp reside, would probably bring the pyx to light. E. M. D.

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GARDENING BOOK (4th S. iv. 274.) — The book for which CORNUB. inquires will no doubt be Lauremberg's Apparatus Plantarius. Frankfortam-M., 1632. P.

"VIOLET; OR, THE DANSEUSE" (4th S. iv. 176, 324, 397, 490, 492, 543.)—The very strong internal evidence against Violet having been written by Captain Marryat, coupled with the fact that he was not in the habit of writing anonymously, caused me to marvel much at the letter of your correspondent ROSE, which attributes to Captain Marryat (and of the novel in question. Captain Marryat did on the authority of his daughter) the authorship write a novel called Monsieur Violet. To the best of my recollection the novel treated of the adventures of a French dancing-master, and—an exception to Marryat's rule-was not acknowledged

by him until subsequently to its publication. Now
could ROSE have confounded the danseur with the
danseuse ?
JOHN JAMES KIRBY.

SCOTTISH REGALIA (4th S. iv. 363.)-The regalia of Scotland consist of the royal crown, the sceptre, and the sword of state. Part of the crown is conjectured to be as ancient as the reign of Robert Bruce, previous to whose coronation the former crown, whatever was its form or value, was carried off by the English in 1296, and was never returned; but, as it now appears, it was, according to Lord Fountainhill, "casten of new by James V.," which, it is observed, we

"must understand in the limited sense of an alteration in the form by the addition of the arches, not an actual remoulding of the whole substance of the crown."-Scotland Delineated, p. 42.

Vide Papers relative to the Regalia of Scotland, printed for the Bannatyne Club, 4to, Edinb. 1829, pp. 50, 51, and 99-103. CHARLES VIVIAN.

41, Eccleston Square, S.W. WEATHER PROGNOSTICATIONS (4th S. iii. 580; iv. 37.)-The following, which have been very correct for England, I have taken from Le triple Almanach Mathieu (de la Drôme), indicateur des Temps pour 1870. Paris:

"Novembre 1869. La nouvelle lune, qui commencera le 3 et finira le 11, occasionnera de fortes pluies, qui se répartiront dans toute la France. Pluies du 15 au 17, et vent sur la mer du Nord. Vent du 20 au 22 sur la Manche. Fort dans le Finistère et sur les côtes de

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"CRUMBLE IN TOPOGRAPHICAL NAMES (4th S. iv. 335, 491, 570.)—I have intended, but forgotten, to suggest the possibility that the word crumble or cromble in local names is Celtic, and a corruption of crum-hal, a compound of crwm (pronounced croom), crooked, and hal (akin, I take it, to Sanskrit hala, water), water. I find myself anticipated by MR. R. S. CHARNOCK's saying that "this word [crumble] is probably from the Celtic crum, crom, crooked: crom-al would signify the crooked water." While I write this, I have before a sketch I took in August 1855 of Roc'k Kroumm, a detached rock on the seashore, about a mile (to speak from memory) west of Roscoff, a town in Brittany, three miles from St. Pol de Léon. It is a narrow beetling rock, some thirty feet high (if I remember aright), sloping gently toward the inland end, and rising abruptly at the end that faces the sea. The Breton word kroumm (pronounced kroomm) means stooping. Thus kroumm eo, hag hén idouank c'hoaz means "he is stooping, though still young." Kroumlec'h means stooping stone, cromlech. And this leads me to say, that out of Léon the word is kromm, instead of kroumm.

JOHN HOSKYNS-ABRAHALL.

Combe Vicarage, near Woodstock.

M. J. DANFORTH (4th S. v. 14.)-Your correspondent HERMANN KINDT asks some particulars as to M. J. Danforth; and although my memory does not serve me as it used to do, I send a few l'Ocean. Froid rigoureux. Vent vers le 24 sur la Médi- particulars that may help him in his search.

terranée. Fort au détroit de Gibraltar. Pluies du 26 au 28.

"Décembre. Vent du 4 au 6. Bourrasques sur le golfe de Gascogne, celui du Lion et le golfe de Gênes Tempêtes sur la mer Noire. Vent du 7 au 8 sur la Manche et la mer du Nord. Le premier quartier de la lune, qui commencera le 10 et finira le 18, amènera des pluies excessivement abondantes. Crue de nos fleuves et de nos rivières. Pluies du 20 au 22 et du 25 au 28. (Reproduction autorisée.)"

41, Eccleston Square, S.W.

CHARLES VIVIAN.

M. J. Danforth was a native of America. About forty years ago he was over here for the purpose of study, and was a student of the Royal Academy, together with a countryman of his, John Kendrick Fisher, who also came over to study engraving. The latter, however, liking art better, left the copper for the canvas; and having on that account displeased his grandfather, who had promised to support him here, had his allowance cut off, and he pursued his art under many difficulties. After a time, they both left for America, where I SPEAKER FOLEY (4th S. iv. 532.)-Several pic- have since heard Danforth continued to engrave. tures of Thomas Foley, the patron of Baxter and I think he was engaged on a plate from a picture founder of the hospital near Stourbridge, remain, of his friend Leslie. Whether he still lives, or one of which, belonging to the feoffees of that how he succeeded in his native country, I do not institution, was exhibited at the meeting of the know; but he was prosperous when I last heard Archæological Institute at Worcester in 1862, and of him. Some of Mr. Leslie's family, if this is described in their published catalogue; but we should meet their eyes, may know more of him. have failed to trace among the numerous family I think I recollect some mezzotints by Dawe, paintings an authentic portrait of his distin- and have a feeling they were from his own paintguished son the Speaker. At Prestwood, nearings- rather melo-dramatic accidents at sea. Stourbridge; in the late Lord Foley's mansion, "Saved" was the title of one-a ship in a gale, Grosvenor Square, London; at Stanford Court, with a child overboard, and a man clinging to a as well as Stoke Edith and elsewhere, may be rope from the bowsprit, seizing the drowning found pictures of the Foley family, amongst child just as the bowsprit rises on the coming which, could an authentic portrait be discovered, wave. This, however, may be a confused memory. we doubtless should find the likeness of its most distinguished member, the Speaker Paul,

THOMAS E. WINNINGTON.

R. R.

LATIN RHYMES (4th S. v. 9.)-I must alike disclaim the honour of being a "translating

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THE REV. GEORGE BENNET (4th S. iv. 409, 563.)-In an article on this divine at p. 563 of the last volume of "N. & Q." by your valued correspondent DR. CRAUFURD TATE RAMAGE, it is stated that amongst his friends was Markham, Archdeacon of Carlisle; and in another article on the same subject and page by DR. ROGERS, he is called Archdeacon Marsham. As "N. & Q." is so frequently used as a book of reference it is desirable that accuracy in all its statements should be as far as possible secured; and the Editor has further got all his correspondents in the way of giving the precise authority for their statements, which of course is another point adding very much to the utility of the publication.

Permit me then to observe that Robert Markham was never Archdeacon of Carlisle, though he was a prebendary of that cathedral, and no doubt from this circumstance became acquainted with Mr. Bennet. He was Archdeacon of York and Rector of Bolton Percy, where he died in 1837, and is buried in the churchyard. He was born in 1768, and was the fifth son of William Markham, Archbishop of York, and tutor to George IV. (See Alumni Westmonasterienses, 1852, p. 422, and the History of the Markham Family, p. 78.) JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.

firmation as to the success of the use of coal in his kilns. It concludes "I shall go to London this day, and shall call in my way at Worster to see the fine new manufactory."

Some other of his letters are written to Mr. William Stringfellow, at the Delft Manufactory in the Strand, Dublin, dated Dec. 1753 and Jan. 1754-all referring to the same subject. The letters are too long for the pages of "N. & Q.," but they will appear shortly in the third edition of my Marks and Monograms on Pottery and Porcelain which is now passing through the press, and I shall be happy to show them to your correspondent Y. S. M. if he will call upon me. W. CHAFFERS.

19, Fitzroy Square.

HISTORY OF THREE IMPOSTORS (4th S. iv. 561.) Of these three worthies, it may be further gathered from the title-page of the scarce little book cited by W. F. that

"The One (was) pretended Son and Heir to the late
Grand Signior;
The Other, a Prince of the Ottoman Family, but in
truth, a Valachian Counterfeit ;

And the Last,

The Suppos'd MESSIAH of the Jews, in the Year of the true Messiah, 1666."

A copy of the book itself, to which W. F. must now be referred for further information, occurred in Willis's catalogue, July 25, 1857, "very rare, 6s. 6d." It is hardly likely, however, to be obtainable after so long a lapse of time. But W. F. need not despair, as the matter fortunately exists in a more readily accessible form. The book, though published anonymously, was written by the celebrated John Evelyn, and is reproduced in the Miscellaneous Works of that author, edited, with notes, by William Upcott, 4to, 1825. If W. F. is not able to meet with this, I shall be happy to lend him my copy of the original work, and will forward it by post on receipt of his address.

I should also refer him to the Omniana of Robert Southey (2 vols. 12mo, 1812). Here he will find an article on one of the so-called impostors-Fr. Domenico Ottomano-in which it is asserted that the title of the book conveys a false meaning, inasmuch as Padre Ottomano, "though no Ottoman, was certainly no impostor"; the further account of this personage and his claims is continued over several pages (see i. 60.) The writer was apparently unaware of the authorship of the book, though he notes that the dedication (to Lord Arlington) bears the initials J. E. WILLIAM BATES.

Bolton Percy, near Tadcaster. DELAMAIN (4th S. iv. 513, 573.)—I have several interesting letters from Henry Delamain of Dublin relating to his invention of the use of coals in heating potters' kilns instead of wood or turf, which he says he had successfully adopted in his own manufactory. His aim seems to have been to obtain a reward from Parliament for the discovery. One of his letters is written at Liverpool, whither he had just arrived to confer with the principal potters, and to induce them to back his petition, for at that time Liverpool was the centre of the earthenware manufacture. This letter is addressed to his wife, "Mrs. Mary Dela- JERES-GIVE (4th S. iv. 561.)-This word, under main, at the India Warehouse, Abbey Street, the name of "yeres-give," is queried by Mr. Riley Dublin," dated Dec. 18, 1753, giving her direc-in his translation of the City Liber Albus. He tions to see a person of the name of Stringfellow, thinks it means an official new-year's gift. who appears to have been in his service, for con

Birmingham.

A. H.

COOMBE WATER-PIPES (4th S. iv. 532.)-The following extract from the churchwardens' accounts of Louth, co. Lincoln, may be helpful to your correspondent:

"1504-5. Resauyd of Ric Raythby for xviij stone leed & xli. j ston vjd. Sma ix". vjd."

EDWARD PEACOCK.

BELIVE (4th S. iv. 500.) - Belive or bylive signifies "quickly," ," "with life," as in Faery Queene, I. canto v. 32:

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By that same way the direfull dames doe drive Their mournefull charet, fild with rusty blood, And downe to Plutoes house are come belive." And canto ix. 4 —

"Unto old Timen he me brought bylive."

T. F. FALKNER. "CANON BONAVENTURA WRITING HIS MEMOIRS

AFTER HIS DEATH" (4th S. iv. 559.)-Mrs. Jameson, in her Legends of the Monastic Orders, p. 291, says that, according to a Spanish legend S. Bonaventura, after his death, returned to the earth for three days, to complete his Life of S. Francis. He is thus represented in a picture in the Louvre (attributed to Murillo) wearing his doctor's cap and gown, with a ghastly expression of counten

ance.

S. Bonaventura was born at Bagnarea, in Tuscany, in 1221; at the age of twenty-two he took the Franciscan habit, and soon became greatly distinguished. In 1256 he was chosen general of the order, and also declined the archbishopric of York, offered him by Pope Clement IV. Gregory X. raised him to the dignity of a cardinal. The envoys sent to give him the hat found him washing the plate from which he had just dined. He bade them hang the hat on a tree till he had done, and hence in pictures of him the hat is frequently thus represented. He died in 1274, while attending the Council of Lyons.

JOHN PIGGOT, JUN., F.S.A. THE "SCRAPE" OF CARLISLE (4th S. iv. 561.) Your correspondent U. O. N. had little chance of success in his consultations of Bosworth, Halliwell, Nares, and Wright, in their several glossaries. That which he reads scrape is in reality socage. There never was any such a name as the Scrape of Carlisle; but the soccage manor is generally spelt as above, and if badly written, might look like the word scrape.

tify them. The Cliffords of Frampton-on-Severn and other branches who difference with a bend, charge that ordinary with 3 lionceux, or 3 leopards' faces; and the Herefordshire Cliffords, who adopt cinqfoils, place them on a fesse. CROWDOWN.

THE PHRASE "DEAR ME" (4th S. iv. 531; v. 24.)-It may be worth a note in reference to this expression, that its exact representative in the vernacular of Southern (and possibly Northern) Germany as the verbal accompaniment of a long-drawn sigh-is "Oh ja" ("Oh yes"). How this expression came to be so used one is sometimes at a loss to imagine. HERMAGORAS.

QUOTATIONS WANTED (4th S. iv. 561.)—“Fortior est qui se," &c. I am unable to inform it stands; but it is certainly founded upon the QUESTOR where to find his quotation, exactly as words of the 32nd verse of the 16th chapter of the Book of Proverbs. The passage in the Vulgate is this:—

"Melior est patiens viro forti: et qui dominatur animo suo, expugnatore urbium."

F. C. H. Rev. F. PHILLOTT.-ED. "N. & Q."] [A reply to the same effect has been received from the ."-Horre

"The venomous reptiles of. bon's History of Ireland, chap. xlvii. "Concerning Owls":"There are in Ireland no owls of any

kind whatever."

R. P.

CARDINAL RICHELIEU (4th S. v. 15.)-See the first chapter of Miss Pardoe's Louis XIV., His Court and Times. The writer gives no authorities. HERMENTRUDE.

DEPENDABLE (4th S. iv. 558.)-This is a new word, and therefore not to be welcomed unless wanted. But, unless it has before been mentioned, it may be worth while to adduce the wellestablished word "available" as a perfect precedent for "reliable." If the latter is wrong because it ought, if anything, to be "rely-onable," so ought "available" to be "avail-of

able."

In truth, nothing is more idle than the attempt to apply rules of consistency to the structure of the English language. Is there any sense of either reliable " 66 or "dependable " which the

There was a 66 scrape " about it in the last century, in which Sir James Lowther figured. simple Saxon "trustworthy" does not give just Possibly the letter may refer to this?

CAERLEOL.

HERALDIC (4th S. iv. 451, 546, 550.)-Allow me to thank my friend MR. FRANK REDE FOWKE and E. W. for their replies to my heraldic query. My own conjecture was in agreement with the suggestion of the former, that the arms were those of Clifford, but I was unable to iden

as well?

LYTTELTON.

DELAMAIN (4th S. iv. 513, 573.)-I beg to refer Y. S. M. to the biographical notices prefixed to my Collection of Chants, &c., where he will find Henry de la Main described as a French Huguenot refugee, and organist and vicar-choral of Cork Cathedral. He died in 1796.

B. ST. J. B. JOULE.

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