was not intolerable, and he deprecated lengthened discussion with more important matters awaiting decision.
MR. O'SHEE said that Questions of which notice was given on Monday must be answered on Wednesday; Questions notified on Tuesday must be answered on Thursday; and Questions notified on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday must all be answered on the following Monday. If the Rule was interpreted strictly, it was absurd.
MR. O'MARA (Kilkenny, S.) said it was ridiculous that the matter should be left in the manner in which it was here. It was really absurd, as his hon. friend had pointed out, that Questions should be put down for three days and that they should accumulate on the Paper to be answered on Monday. Suppose that fifty Questions were put down each day on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday for oral replies, there would be on Monday 150 Questions on the Paper. How did the First Lord of the Treasury expect that these Questions would be answered in the few minutes to be devoted to them? Really, this Standing Order, so far as the asking of Questions to be answered orally was concerned, would leave the House in a position of absolute absurdity. There had been many absurdities introduced into their procedure, but the climax had been reached when it was proposed that Questions put down on three successive days should be answered on one day.
Order was the worst that had been made. Not a single answer had been given by the authors of this absurdity in defence I of its retention. It was evident that the limitations laid down by the Rule were for the real purpose of turning hon. Members against the asking of Questions altogether. They valued the right of asking Questions, and he hoped that a division would be taken on the Amendment. He believed the Nationalists gave less trouble to the Government than any section of the House. Their object in exposing on the floor of the House the methods of Irish administration was not only to obtain redress for their own people, but to show to the civilised world what the system of government in Ireland was. That was one of the rights which they intended to cling to through thick and thin. No reason had been given for this drastic change, and if a reason could be assigned he believed it would be stated. This Rule would enable the Government to shirk the duty for which they were very well paid. He did not consider the House was being treated fairly when, after the arguments which had been deduced, hon. and right hon. Gentlemen on the Government Front Bench remained silent.
MR. CREAN (Cork, S.E.) said the proposal contained in this Standing Noes, 126.
Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel Archdale, Edward Mervyn Arkwright, John Stanhope Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. Arrol, Sir William Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Austin, Sir John Bain, Colonel James Robert Balcarres, Lord
Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. Bignold, Arthur Bigwood, James Blundell, Colonel Henry Bond, Edward
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex Brassey, Albert
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Brookfield, Colonel Montagu Brotherton, Edward Allen Bullard, Sir Harry Butcher, John George Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Cavendish, V.C. W. (D'rbyshire Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm. Chamberlain, J. Austen(Wore. Clare Octavius Leigh Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. [FOURTH SERIES.] I
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A.J. (Manch'r Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) Balfour, RtHn Gerald W (Leeds Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Banbury, Frederick George Bartley, George C. T. Beach, RtHn. Sir Michael Hicks Bentinck, Lord Henry C. VOL. CVII.
Coghill, Douglas Harry Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Cranborne, Viscount
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton) Dalrymple, Sir Charles Denny, Colonel
Dewar, T. R. (TrH'ml'ts, S. Geo Dickinson, Robert Edmond Dickson, Charles Scott Doughty, George
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. AkersDoxford, Sir William Theodore Duke, Henry Edward Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward Fergusson, Rt. Hn. SirJ. (Manc.
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage Finch, George H.
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Fisher, William Hayes Flannery, Sir Fortescue Flower, Ernest Forster, Henry William Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick, S. W Galloway, William Johnson Gardner, Ernest Garfit, William
Godson, SirAugustus Frederick Gordon, Hn.J. E. (Elgin&Nairn Gore, Hn. S. F. Ormsby-(Linc.) Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon Goulding, Edward Alfred Green, Walford D(Wednesbury Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) Gretton, John Groves, James Grimble Hain, Edward Hamilton, RtHnLdG. (Midd'sx Hanbury, Rt. Hn. Robert Wm. Hardy, Laurence (Kent,Ashfo'd Harris, Frederick Leverton Haslam, Sir Alfred S. Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Hay, Hon. Claude George Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley Heath, James (Staffords, N. W. Henderson, Alexander Hermon-Hodge, Robert Trotter Higginbottom, S. W. Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E. Hogg, Lindsay
Hope, J.F. (Sheffield, Brig'tside Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry Howard, John (Kent, Fav'rshm Hudson, George Bickersteth Jeffreys, Arthur Frederick Johnston, William (Belfast) Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H. Kenyon, Hn. Geo. T. (Denbigh Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop Knowles, Lees
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool) Lawson, John Grant
Lee, Arthur H. (Hants, Fareh'm Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) |
Leveson-Gower, Frederick, N.S Llewellyn, Evan Henry Lockwood, Lt. Col. A. R. Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol,S) Lonsdale, Jonn Brownlee Lowe, Francis Wiliam Lucas, ReginaldJ. (Portsmouth Macdona, John Cumming MacIver, David (Liverpool) Maconochie, A. W. M'Calmont, Col. J. (Antrim,E.) M'lver, SirLewis (Edinburgh W M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire Majendie, James A. H. Manners, Lord Cecil Maxwell, WJ H(Dumfriesshire Melville, Beresford Valentine Mildmay, Francis Bingham Milner, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick G. Mitchell, William Molesworth, Sir Lewis Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) More, Robt.Jasper(Shropshire) Morrison, James Archibald Morton Arthur H. A. (Deptford Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. Murray, RtHnA.Graham(Bute Murray. Charles J. (Coventry) Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) Myers, William Henry Newdigate, Francis Alexander Nicholson, William Graham O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay Palmer, Walter (Salisbury) Parkes, Ebenezer Pease, Herbert Pike(Darli'gton Pilkington, Lieut-Col. Richard Platt-Higgins, Frederick Plummer, Walter R. Powell, Sir Francis Sharp Pretyman, Ernest George Pryce-Jones, Lt. Col. Edward Purvis, Robert
Rasch, Major Frederic Carne Ratcliff, R. F.
Rattigan, Sir William Henry Reid, James (Greenock) Remnant, James Farquharson
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh. Dillon, John
Donelan, Captain A. Doogan, P. C.
Duncan, J. Hastings Esmonde, Sir Thomas Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) Fenwick, Charles Ffrench, Peter
Flavin, Michael Joseph Flynn, James Christopher Gilhooly, James
Goddard, Daniel Ford Grant, Corrie
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton Hammond, John Hayden, John Patrick Hayne, Rt. Hn. Charles Seale- Hayter, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur D. Helme, Norval Watson Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.
Renshaw, Charles Bine Renwick, George Ritchie, Rt. HonChas.Thomson Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) Rolleston, Sir John F. L. Ropner, Colonel Robert Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter Russell, T. W.
Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert Sharpe, William Edward T. Simeon, Sir Barrington Skewes-Cox, Thomas Smith, HC. (North'mb. Tynes'e. Smith, James Parker (Lanarks) Spear, John Ward Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) Stock, James Henry Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier Thorburn, Sir Walter Thornton, Percy M. Tollemache, Henry James Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray Tritton, Charles Ernest Ure, Alexander Valentia, Viscount Wanklyn, James Leslie Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts) Whiteley, H(Ashton-und. Lyne Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord Willox, Sir John Archibald Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E. R. Wilson, John (Falkirk) Wilson, John (Glasgow) Wilson.J. W. (Worcestersh.N.) Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm Worsley Taylor, Henry Wilson Wylie, Alexander Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George Wyndham-Quin, Major{W. H. Younger, William
M'Hugh, Patrick A. M'Kean, John M'Kenna, Reginald M-Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Mansfield, Horace Rendall Markham, Arthur Basil Mooney, John J. Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen Murphy, John Nannetti, Joseph P. Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway,N.) Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) O'Brien, Kendal (Tin'erary Mid O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) O'Connor, James(Wicklow, W. O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) O'Down, John
O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N O'Malley, William O'Mara, James
O'Shaughnessy, P. J. O'Shee, James John | Partington, Oswald Paulton, James Mellor Power, Patrick Joseph Rea, Russell Reddy, M. Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Rickett, J. Compton Rigg, Richard
Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) Roberts, John H. (Denbigh.) Robson, William Snowdon Roche, John Runciman, Walter Schwann, Charles E. Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.) Shipman, Dr. John G. Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) Soares, Ernest J.
Spencer, RtHnC. R. (Northants Stevenson, Francis S.
Strachey, Sir Edward Sullivan, Donal
Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.) Tomkinson, James Trevelyan, Charles Philips Wallace, Robert Weir, James Galloway White, George (Norfolk) White, Patrick (Meath North) Whiteley, George(York, W.R.) Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid Young, Samuel Yoxall, James Henry
TELLERS FOR THE NOESMr. Pirie and Mr. Nor
Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel Allhusen, Augustus Henry E. Archdale, Edward Mervyn Arkwright, John Stanhope Arnold Forster, Hugh O. Arrol, Sir William Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Austin, Sir John
Bain, Colonel James Robert Balcarres, Lord
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) Balfour, Rt HnGerald W (Leeds Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Banbury, Frederick George Barry, Sir Francis T. (Windsor) Bartley, George C. T. Beach, Rt. HnSir Michael Hicks Bentinck, Lord Henry C. Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. Bignold, Arthur
Bigwood, James
Bill, Charles
Blundell, Colonel Henry Bond, Edward Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex Brassey, Albert
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Brookfield, Colonel Montagu Brotherton, Edward Allen Brymer, William Ernest Bullard, Sir Harry Butcher, John George Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. (Birm.
Chamberlain,J Austen (Worc'r Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Clare, Octavius Leigh Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Coghill, Douglas Harry Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole Compton, Lord Alwyne Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Cranborne, Viscount
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton) Dalkeith, Earl of Dalrymple, Sir Charles Denny, Colonel Dewar,T.R.(T'r H'ml'ts, S. Geo Dickinson, Robert Edmond Dickson, Charles Scott Doughty, George Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Doxford, Sir William Theodore Duke, Henry Edward Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward Fergusson, Rt. Hn.SirJ (Manc'r Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst Finch, George H.
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Fisher, William Hayes Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon Flannery, Sir Fortescue Flower, Ernest
Forster, Henry William Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick, SW Galloway, William Johnson Gardner, Ernest Garfit, William Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick Gordon, Hn.J.E. (Elgin&Nairn Gore, Hon. S. F.Ormsby-(Linc.) Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon
Goulding, Edward Alfred Green, WalfordD (Wednesbury Greene, Henry D (Shrewsbury) Gretton, John
Groves, James Grimble Hain, Edward
Hambro, Charles Eric Hamilton Rt HnLordG(Midd'x Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd Harris, Frederick Leverton Haslam, Sir Alfred S. Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Hay, Hon. Claude George Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley Heath, James (Staffords., N. W. Helder, Augustus
Henderson, Alexander Hermon-Hodge, Robert Trotter Higginbottom, S. W. Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.) Hogg, Lindsay
Hope, J.F(Sheffield, Brightside Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry Howard,John(Kent Faversham Hudson, George Bickersteth Jeffreys, Arthur Frederick Johnston, William (Belfast) Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) Kennaway, Rt. Hon. SirJohn H. Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop) Knowles, Lees
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) Lawrence, Joseph (Monmouth) Lawson, John Grant Lee, Arthur H(Hants, Fareham Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S. Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol S) Lonsdale, John Brownlee Lowe, Francis William Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth Macdona, John Cumming MacIver, David (Liverpool) Maconochie, A. W. M'Calmont, Col. J. (Antrim, E.) M'Iver, Sir Lewis(Edinburgh W M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) Majendie, James A. H. Manners, Lord Cecil Maxwell, WJ H(Dumfriesshire Melville, Beresford Valentine Mildmay, Francis Bingham Mitchell, William Molesworth, Sir Lewis Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire) Morgan, Hn. Fred(Monm'thsh. Morrell, George Herbert Morrison, James Archibald Morton, Arthur H. A (Deptford) Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. Murray, RtHnA. Graham (Bute Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) Myers, William Henry Newdigate, Francis Alexander Nicholson, William Graham Nicol, Donald Ninian O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Palmer, Walter (Salisbury) Parkes, Ebenezer Pease, Herbert Pike(D'rlington Pilkington, Lieut. -Col. Richard Platt-Higgins, Frederick Plummer, Walter R. Powell, Sir Francis Sharp Pretyman, Ernest George Pryce-Jones, Lt. Col. Edward Purvis, Robert
Rasch, Major Frederic Carne Ratcliff, R. F.
Rattigan, Sir William Henry Reid, James (Greenock) Remnant, James Farquharson Renshaw, Charles Bine Renwick, George
Ritchie, Rt Hn Chas. Thompson Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) Rolleston, Sir John F. L. Ropner, Colonel Robert Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter Royds, Clement Molyneux Russell, T. W.
Sackville, Col. Samuel Alex'der Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert Sharpe, William Edward T. Simeon, Sir Barrington Smith, H.C(North'mbTyneside Smith, James Parker(Lanarks) Spear, John Ward
Stanley, EdwardJas. (Somerset Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
| Goddard, Daniel Ford Grant, Corrie Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton Hammond, John Hayden, John Patrick Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- Hayter, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur D. Helme, Norval Watson Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H. Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E.) Hope, John Dean- (Fife, West) Horniman, Frederick John Hutton, Alfred E. Jones, David Brynmor (Swans'a Jones, William (Carnarvonshi'e Joyce, Michael
Kinloch, Sir JohnGeorgeSmyth Lambert, George Law, Hugh Alex. (Donegal,W.) Layland-Barratt, Francis Leamy, Edmund
Leese, SirJoseph F. (Accrington Leigh, Sir Joseph Leng, Sir John' Levy, Maurice Lockwood, Lt. Col. A. R. Louh, Thomas
MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. MacNeill, John Gordon Swift MacVeagh, Jeremiah
| M'Crea, George M'Fadden, Edward M'Hugh, Patrick A. M'Kean, John M'Kenna, Reginald M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Mansfield, Horace Rendall
Stock, James Henry Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) Thorburn, Sir Walter Thornton, Percy M. Tollemache, Henry James Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray Tritton, Charles Ernest Valentia, Viscount Wanklyn, James Leslie Warde Colonel C. E. Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts. Whiteley, H(Ashton und. Lyne Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord Willox, Sir John Archibald Wilson, A.Stanley (York, E.R.) Wilson, John (Falkirk) Wilson, John (Glasgow) Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.) Wolff, Gustav. Wilhelm Worsley-Taylor, Henry Wilson Wylie, Alexander Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George Wyndham Quin, Major W. H. Younger, William
TELLERS FOR THE AYESSir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther.
Markham, Arthur Basil Mooney, John J. Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) Murphy, John Nannetti, Joseph P.
Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway,N. Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) O'Brien, Kendal (Tippera'y Mid O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) O'Dowd, John O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) O'Kelly, James(Roscommon, N. O'Malley, William O'Mara, James O'Shaughnessy, P. J. O'Shee, James John Partington, Oswald Paulton, James Mellor Power, Patrick Joseph Rea, Russell Reddy, M.
Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Rickett, J. Compton Rigg, Richard
| Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) Roberts, John H. (Denbighs) Robson, William Snowdon Roche, John
Roe, Sir Thomas Runciman, Walter
Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Schwaon, Charles E.
Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
* (10.26.) MR. NORMAN thought it was extremely regrettable that no explanation should have been offered by the right hon. Gentleman as to the points he so strongly resisted in the previous Amendment. Had that explanation been made, and had it been satisfactory, it would not have been necessary to trouble the House with the Amendment he now proposed. Under the new Rules, Questions handed in on Wednesday and appearing on the Paper on Thursday would not be answered until the Monday. It was therefore obvious that Questions handed in on Thursday and Friday would also be answered on Monday. Monday's Question Paper, under those conditions, would be so very crowded that the miserable remnant of time allowed under the Rule would not be adequate. One point he desired to impress upon the House-and this was most importantwas that Members would not be able to raise a debate upon a Question of urgent public importance during that time, and in the event of such a Question arising, the whole matter would be hung up for five days. That was a situation which might be fraught with serious consequences. What was the position of Ministers with regard to Friday? What were their obligations to the House on that day? It was open, under the present Rules, for a Member to put down a Question for Wednesday, but it was equally open to a Minister not to come down to answer it.
*MR. SPEAKER: I do not think that that question arises on this Amendment.
*MR. NORMAN assumed that Ministers would not answer Questions on Fridays, and it was on that assumption he was basing his present argument. It could not be contended by any Minister that a Question, of which notice had reached him at his office at two o'clock the day before, had been so suddenly sprung upon him that he could not rise to give an answer twentyfour hours later. If the Amendment were accepted, the difficulties to which he
Whiteley, George (York, W. R.) Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) Wilson, Fred. W.) Norfolk,Mid. Young, Samuel Yoxall, James Henry
TELLERS FOR THE NOESMr. Pirie and Mr. Norman.
MR. A. J. BALFOUR: The hon. Gentleman has described to the House the difficulties which he thinks will arise from adopting the Rule unless amended in the manner he suggests. He seems to imagine that the House would have no means of obtaining information upon even the most pressing matter before Wednesday or Monday. That is really not the case, because Questions of urgent public importance can be asked on Thursday, and also, by old-established custom, at the adjournment of the House on Friday.
*MR. NORMAN reminded the right hon. Gentleman that he especially referred to urgent Questions concerning the importance of which the Minister concerned, or the selecting official, did not agree with the hon. Members who desired to ask them.
MR. A. J. BALFOUR: It is not a matter of agreement between the Minister and the private Member, if Mr. Speaker is of opinion that the matter cannot be put off without public inconvenience. Mr. Speaker alone will be the authority to
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