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thip would find a fit opportunity of in Mr. W. Pitt said, there were two reacreasing the revenue by taking it off. fons for preferring a resolution of the
Sir G. Yonge said, he understood, from House to an address to the King; one, the noble Lord's manner of expressing A that it was conformable to precedent; himself, that he meant to confine the du- the other, because there were inany paty only to travelling carts, and to exempt tent places in the Customs which were in all those employed in husbandry. the gift of the Lords of the Treasury,
Lord J. Cavendish said, he incant no and therefore an address would be no such thing; only to admit such modifi- guard. --The question was put, and a cations as to make it as little burthen- greed to without opposition. fome to husbandmen as poslible.
June 2. Mr. Sawbridge threw out a hint, that B Mr. Rolle desired to be informed, by if gentlemen would consent to wave their the Paymáster - General, whether Mr. privilege of franking, husbandmen might Bembridge was yet suspended or not. be eased of many of their present griev Mr. Barke thought, from what had ous burthens,
passed, that the hon. member had no ocThe Speaker put the question, “ That cafion to call for any such information, “the House agree with the Committee The sense of the House had been collect“in this resolution (relative to the wheel ed, and the Paymaster-General mult of “tax),” which, on a division, was car-Ccourse be directed by what he conceived ried, Ayes 47, Nocs 20.- The other re to be his duty. folutions were all carried without debate. Mr. Rolle was not satisfied with this May 28.
answer; and Gen. Smith rose to move several refo Mr. Burke had very firong reafons for lutions, grounded on the reports of the not saying more upon the subject; his Select Committee, the object of which feelings were, unfortunately, deeply inwas to censure Sir Wm. James and Mr. terested in it. It appeared, however, he Sullivan; but
D said, that the feelings of tome other Mr. Fox, being willing to put an end members seemed to be of so very differe to the business, rose, and moved, “That ent a texture, that they could debate up: the next order of the day might be read," on a subject, without emotion, that would which was agreed to, and all further pro- barrow up the souls of other men * ceedings cealed.
Mr. Rolle in Gifted on a direet answer. May 30
Mr. Rigby then rose to inform the hor. Lord Mabor's new bill for preventing , member that Mr. Bembridge was actu. bribery at elections was read the first ally suspended. And time, and ordered to be read a second Mr. Rolle declared, that what the hon. time on the Monday following.
Gent. had laid had perfectly satisfied him. Mr. W. Pire informed the House, that, Mr. W'. Pitt brought in a bill for reas many objections had been made to the gulating all the different public offices ; bill for abolishing patent places in the which, he said, was to einbrace all the Customs, he was willing to drop it for different objects pointed out in the king's the present year; but, as the principle of speech at the opening of the present fel. the bill seemed to be honoured with che" lion. This, he said, would thew that approbation of the House, he intended to the speech was not full of empty profesmake a motion that should prevent any fions, as some gentleinen had thought measures from being taken during the proper to insinuace, but that the Minisrecels that thould clog the discullion of ters then in office were seriously deterit next year. He therefore moved, “That mined to make good every promisc that “it is the opinion of this Housc, that his was made in it. “ Majesty's Ministers ought not to grant, G Lord J. Cavendish wited to see the " or advise to be granted, any patent, or bill, but would not have it thought thac
reversion of any patent place in the he pledged himseif to support it. On “ Customs before the next session of parthe contrary, he was of opinion that all “ liament."
the purpotes of the bill might be as well Sir W. Dolben thought it much more answered by judicious regulations of of. respectful to address his Majesty, than to fice as by act of parliament resolve that Ministers ought not to grant Mr. Burke wilhed chat some attentio'ı them. It was the King's acknowledged H had been paid, fome time ago, to the prerogative to bestow places, of which he could not be deprived by a resolution of * Mr. Powell, fince the subjec) was last that House,
agitated, had put a period to his exifte ice.
principle on which the bill was founded, Lord Advocate stated to the House, and there would not have arisen such that the cvidence in defence of Sir The. complaints as had been made relative to Rumbold and Mr. Perring being cloed, the fees at the Treasury for pass-ports to Ait would be necessary; before the House, America and other ports. The conduct could proceed any further, to have the of the late Adininiftration must be eridence on both fides printed, especially brought forward in that respect; and, as, during the prosecution, elic House that the House might be fully enabled had been so thinly attended as frequente to form a trier judgement of that truth ly to be counted out; and the evi: and fidelity of which the right hon. Gent. dence being so roluminous as not to lie had boallcd, he should move for certain poflible to print it in the more time the papers, so that the House would have be. House had to fit, he trunce the House fore them, at once, their plans of reform, B would see the utter impossibility of pro
B and their practices of abuse.
ceeding any further this fellion; and Mr. W. Pitt wished for no bettet telt. therefore he would movc, That leave be The Hon. Gent. know whether bring- giren to bring in a bill, to provide that ing forward plans of theoretical reform, the proceedings on the bill, now dependand being guilty of practical abuse, fitted ing in parliament, for inflicting certain the one or the o-her Administration beft; pains and penaltics on Sir Thomas Rumand the publick, he believed, would need c bold, Bart. and Peter Perring. Esq. for no other proof to direct their judgement certain breaches of public trust, &c. be in the decifion than the part which fome not chiscontinued by any prorogation or people nad taken on a late transaclion dissolution of parliament. that will long be remembered; but, be Mr. Kenyon seconded it. that as it may, it is a strong proof how Earl Nugent opposed the motion, on the abfolurcly necessary some such bill as has ground of the House not being compebeen just read is to prevent official abuse, tent to decide upon it. If there was no which the regulators of office have roto-D law againit murder, he would not have a tiously permitted.
man suffer for murder. The motion was carried ; as was that Sir P. J. Clerke was of the same npinion. for having the bill printed.
Mr. Sawbridge exprefled himself very Mr. W. Pilt then moved, That there warmly against keeping the gentlemen be laid before the House accounts of all in suspence another year. It was totally fecs, gratuities, and perquisites, received subrestire of every principle of humanity and taken at the public offices which he and justice. bamed.
E' Sir T. Rumbold made a moft pathetic Ordered, That there be laid before the
fpeech, in which he described his futter. House accounts of the annual incidental ings in strong terms. He called upon charges incurred in each of the offices. Ministers to acceleratc his caufe; cited
Ordered, That copies of the establish: Magna Charta as the great bulwark of ment of the said offices be laid before the British liberties, in which it is expressly House, as they stood at Michaelmas declared there Dould be no delay of jura 1782, shewing the numbers of the seve t.cc. Whatever the fentence of the House tal officers and clerks employed therein, F might be, he wished it to be pronounced: with the salaries and allowances paid to Mr. Fox was of opinion the evidence cach respectively:
ought to be printed ; and, if it could be : Mr. Burke laid, if the gentlemen on done this seffion, he saw no reason to the other lide were so eager to open their delay it.
He declared he had never sac pedlars boxes, and lay their hands on as a Minister on the hon. Baronet's cause, every trifling peccadillo, he would pro nor ever would attempt it. His caule duce his pedlar's box likewise. Hc con was, of all others, that on which nothing cluded with moring for accounts of all Ghui candour add jutlite frould govern fees received on pass-ports given to any the minds of thotc who were to decide tips from the zoth of November, 1787, upon it; and it was for that reason that at the office of the Sccrctaries of State, or he wished the crjdence to be printed. any other office, and the quantity of the Mr. Eyre was confident that the proo lame, and the distribution thereof.
ceedings against Sir T. R. were illegal. Mr. Pirt feconded the motion.
Lord Norih was of a different opinion. Mr. Burke then moved, That copicsh. Mr. Solicitor-General was of opinion of all letters applying for redress, or the proccedings against the hon. Barooct complaining of the said fees, be laid bc
were illegal, and would be found so on fure che Houle.
the day of trial.
Mr. Dempfer observed, that the whole Mr. Speaker then got up, and explainof the evidence having been heard, and ed the matter in a light very different it now appearing that Sir T. R. had not A from that in which Mr. Eftwick had rebeen guilty of the enormous crimes with presented it. - He said, the alterations which he had been charged, he ought complained of had been made, not in prinot to be restrained by a bill of pains and vate, but in the face of the House, before penalties, but only held to bail. the Speaker, who had put the question
Lord Advocate said, some regulations on every one of the clauses; but, as he might be made when the bill was brought understood, the parties concerned were in. The motion was then put, and paf- all agreed, and that no opposition was sed without a division.
B to be given, he had put the question in June 3.
a low tone of voice, merely to be heard The Lord Advocate brought in the re by the parties themselves, who, at the ftraining bill.
time, stood all round the chair, as was Sir T. Rumbold desired to know if the usual in all such cases where the sense of restraint on his perfon, for preventing the parties was known. him from leaving the kingdom, was to
Mr. Burke said the fact was just as be continued.
the Speaker had represented it. Nothing Ld. Advoc. answered in the negative. C could have been farther from his intenLeave was then given to bring in the bill. tion than to take the House by surprise.
A motion was made for the third read. He had given notice to several honouraing of the Pay-office bill.
ble members, but, he confessed, not so Mr. Efwick rose, and gave a very mi- early as he could have wished, because nute account of a transaction that seemed the service pressed exceedingly for the to bear hard upon the conduct of some bill, and he had learned, though late, that gentlemen in power, who, notwithstand some of the clauses alluded to would ing, cleared themselves of any bad inten.Dbe highly prejudicial to the service. One tion, to the fatisfaction of the House.- of the clauses, he said, incapacitated for An alteration, he said, had been made in ever any clerk in office, who Mould take some clauses of the above bill, on the fees. He thought this too grievous a motion of his friend, Col. Barré, when punishment, and that three years suspenthe bill was in committee; to which, it fion was sufficiently severe. If gentlewas generally understood, no opposition men, however, were advocates for the was to have been given on their potte E oppose them, but would enter his protest
eternity of punishment, he should not found that three of them had been totally against the cruelty of the measure. He expunged, and a fourth altered, which diverted the House with the story of a he discovered when he went to look into divine at Neufchatel, who, thinking the the bill in the engrossing clerks' office, justice of the Almighty ought to have He instantly made the Speaker acquaint- some bounds, preached against the etered with the discovery, who, he said, ad-, nity of the damned. This doétrine dressed him in these words : "Sir, I have scandalised his auditors. The divine "a very great respect for you; but fill perfifted in his preaching; a tumult en“I cannot believe what I hear, unless I sued, and the Prufian commandant com« fee the alterations you have been speak plained to the king, who returned this “ing of." On this he produced the bill
laconic answer, Les Meseurs de Neuf to the Speaker, who, being convinced, chatel soient damnés eternellement.-Lex said, “he hoped Mr. Eftwick did not the people of Neufchatel be damned eter" think that he connived at this bufiness,
nally if they like it, " or had been in any degree an accom-G. Sir G. Yonge stated the tranfa&ion as “plice in it." Mr. Erwick complained it struck him, not exactly the same as to the House of these alterations, which either the Speaker or Mr. Burke had he ascribed to Mr, Burke, observing, at
stated it. the same time, that if an individual mem Mr. For defended Mr. Burke; and her could thus alter the records of par, said, if he had been to blarne in any liament, there was no fecurity for the thing it was in supposing he thould lives and fortunes of the subjects; and, inect with any degree of candour from a in order that persons should not avail, certain quarter. He ught to have re. themselves of such practices, lie infilted 17 collected the observation of the English that the claufes which had been expung poet, ed hould be restored.
* Thar liglezbings ferm great to liecle men." GENT. MAG. Nov. 1783.
Mr. Pitt insisted, that the clauses ex- agreed for a twelvemonth and a day, they punged should be restored, that such a should have his hearty vote for the fitch mode of expunging might not be drawn of bacon. into precedent.
A Mr. Efwick_moved for leave to bring Lord North thought it a little surpris- up the first expunged clause, whicb, having that the Hon. Gent, who preferred ing been granted, was read the first time, the complaint had not so much as at but, on the question for the fecond read. tempted to prove the alteration for the ing, the House divided, Noes 103, Ayes worle; this he had wisely declined; but 25.-The bill was afterwards read the he must state this to the House, that his third time, as altered, and passed. right hon. friend had, by his alterations,
June s. made sense of nonsense.
B Several petitions were offered from diMr. Wilberforce supported Mr. Pitt's vers places, praying that the tax on reargument, and contended that no altera
ceipts might not pals into a law; but the tion should be made in a bill without the Speaker reminded the House that it was full and public consent of the Houfe. an established rule never to receive any
Mt. Adam, who had just come in, petition whatever against a money bill. spoke strongly on the side of Miniftry. Mr. Fox moved for a committee of the
Lord Advocate supported the argument whole House to take into confideration of Mt. Pite, whom he called the first po-Cthe expediency of allowing a drawback litical character of the age, and predided of the whole duty on the exportation of that nothing would prolper till that gen- rice. A committee was accordingly ap. gleman was pressed again into power. pointed. And
Mr. Fox, in reply, described the Lord Mr. Eden took the chair, when it was Advocate as a political weather-cock, unanimously agreed to allow the drawe ready to veer with every breeze that back, and a bill ordered accordingly. pointed to self-interest.
A committee was appointed to confis Mr. HiU said, when he first find theD der of the importation of corn, fo far as honour of a seat in that House, he was relates to Scotland, and Mr. Pulteney weak enough to suppose that he should took the chair. Some papers were read find every member voting according to in the committee, which proved that the dictates of his conscience, but expe- many of the poor Highlanders in Inverrience had taught him wisdom. He had nefsíhire had died for want; and the difheard an hon member, who had just en- ferent accounts gave a melancholy relatered the House, speak decidedly to the q tion of the indigence of the country, by question, while he, who had heard the reason of the late bad harvest. whole of the debate, could not help dif Mr. Dempfier faid, the poor of the fering from him widely in opinion. The northern paits of Scotland lived chiefly question was not, he conceived, as the upon oatmeal; that last year the fnow noble Lord had liated it, which was for fell in great quantities before the time the best, but whether a private mem arrived when the oats were ripe enough ber of parliament had a right, by his to be got in, and buried them entirely. own authority, to alter, change, and mu• f In December, after scraping the snow rilate an act of that House? And if a away, the poor farmers got in their corn, Biberty of that fort was to be allowed, but, when they came to thresh it, what there must be an end, not only of the little they got out of it was scarce fuffi-. dignity of Parliament, but even of Par- cient to low their land for the ensuing liament itself. The noble Lord alluded year; and, besides, was so bad, that to had, on some occasions, spoken much scarce one-third of it vegetated at all, against innovations. If he could defend and what did vegetate came up so weak fuch an innovation as the present, there and fickly that inany were obliged to is nothing fo bad that he would not sup-G plough their lands afresh, and to fow port. He expreffed bis furprise to lee barley:--Mr. Dempfrer enlarged upon those who, laiely, durft not trust them- these facts, and observed that the people felves in a room together, now cordially who were thus visited were a valuable embracing cach other's opinions. The race of men, many of whom had diftin. House might suppose he meant the Right guished themselves by their bravery in Hon. Secretary for the Whig depart. the service of Great Britain. He therement, and the noble Lord in the blue; fore moved, That his Majesty mould Bilbon for the Tory department. Heh be enabled to allow the importation of would nut deny but he did, and begged corn, for a time, into certain ports of 0. allure we loving pair that, if they Scotland, under certain restrictions.
The Marquis of Graham seconded the out of the first aids that shall be granted motion, and recommended it very by Parliament, such expences as shall be strongly to Adininiftration to attend to incurred by his Majesty in relieving the the unfortunate fituation of the people, misery to which his Majesty's unhappy which was truly deplorable. A subjects may be reduced to this deplo
Sir J. Alawbey threw out some con rable calamity. This likewise was temptuous allusions against Scotland, agreed to; and which he thought should be left to pro The order of the day read for going vide for itself.
into a committee on the tax-bills- This Ld y. Cavendish said, this was not a occasioned some poignant conversation, in time for trifling, when calamity was which almost all the speaking members staring us in the face. He wished there took a part; but produced no material fore that not a moment might be bost; B akerations in the Minister's plan. On the and recommended it strongly to those receipt tax, the Ld Mayor of London gentlemen to see the indulgence to be contended much for exempring all regranted carried fairly into execution; ceipts for sums under sl from duty, and and that corn should 'not be taken fron moved the House upon it. one part of the country and carried to Sir Grey Cooper observed, that, if this another, which would only change the exemption did not deftroy the whole tax, place of distress for the emolument of a it would certainly render the residue not few individuals. The question was then c. worth contending for. The House dia put and agreed to.
vided upon it, Ayes 21, Noes 126, Mr. Dempsler followed his first by a against the Ld Mayor's maion. second motion, “ That the commisfion
June 6. ers of land-tax, for the counties before The House in a committee of fapply. enumerated, be enabled to levy a sum Ld North moved several small lums, not exceeding 141. Scots on every 100l. according to customn, for the civil estaba Scots, of the valued rent of said counties, lishments of the two Floridas, Georgia, and to apply the same to the relief ofD St. John's, Nova Scotia, and Genegambia, such of the inhabitants as are or shall be He explained the reasons for moving for reduced to poverty by the failure of laft settlements that were to be ceded to the year's crop.
enemy, because the balances to the civil Marquis of Graham seconded the mo officers were ftill unpaid; but no furzion.
er application to Parliament, fut such Sir Adam Ferguson observed, there aid, would be necessary. He just lünted ac were three claffes of people in those E some additional expence for Nova Scotia, counties; the rich, who could purchase as the late Deputy Gov. [Commod. Sir corn at any price ; the middling, who And. Hammond), having other employcould purchase it at the price which a free ments, had no salary from Government; importation would reduce it to; and the but as that was not the case with the
prepoor, that were now starving,
sent Deputy Gov. Col. Fanning, a brave Sir Edw. Afley thought there were fand gallant refugee, his Majesty had orother parts of the kingdom, as well as
dered him a falary of sool. a year, an Scotland, where the poorest sort of people income which he had dearly carned by were greatly in want of relief.
his attachment and loyalty to Great BriThis motion was likewise agreed to. tain. Also an increase of 2001. a year And
to the salary of the C. Justice. His Ldp Mr. Dempfier moved a third, That a concluded by moving the different sums, bounty be granted on 60,000 quarters of which were granted without opposition. corn, to be imported into the ports of Greading of the bill for preventing alvafes
Mr. W. Pitt inoved for the second Scotland.
This meeting with some opposition ' in different offices, &c. which, he said, as to the mode, Mr. Dempster with he was the more anxious to have paired drew it; and, in its room, moved an this session, as a noble Ld (North) had Address to the Crown, most humbly to said in a former speech, that in the Treabeseech his Majesty, that he will be gra- fury there was not the leaft trace to be ciously pleased to give such directions as found of any of the reforms that were lo may tend most effectually to avert the hpompously announced in that grand faevils that are to be apprehended from the bric, the King's speech. This bill was above calamitous state of the northern to convince his Lip that one part of the parts of Scotland ; and to assure his Ma reform announced was in forwardness, efty, that this House will make good, and the remaining parts Rould be ready