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want of an Administration as a public evil, and owned the addrefs to be wellfounded, but whether the time was come for the Houfe to go up with fuch an addrefs, it was for the wisdom of the Houfe to determine. The caufes that delayed the formation of a Miniftry he apprehended to be of fuch a delicate nature, as not proper at this time to meet the inveftigation of the Houfe; but this he could anfwer for, that the blame lay not with him, with his right hon. friend,B nor with the noble Duke.

Gent. at the head of Adminiftation; and fuppofe that the completion of that with fhould never have been abandoned till this day; in that cafe the Houfe would furely fee, that a matter of perfect A novelty had juft occurred, which must neceffarily give a new turn to the whole arrangement. Would the House then, under fuch peculiar circumftances, with to prefs indecently forward? Or would they not rather wait a little, to fee what a day or two longer would produce? Impreffed with this idea, he thought it his duty openly to oppofe the motion, and to do it the more effectually he moved the order of the day.

Sir H. Houghton lamented the political lofs to the nation of the talents of the right Chon. Gent. who had juft announced his refignation; but hoped he would still reinain" a jewel in the mouth of the law." He appealed to the feelings of the Houfe, whether they would not act too precipitately, thus early to vote a fecond addrefs fimilar to the firft, before it was poflible for the Royal authority to have Dits proper effect? He therefore feconded the motion for the order of the day.

Sir Wm. Dolben did not feem fully fatisfied with this declaration. He hoped from his heart that, as they had taken from the Crown all influence within the walls of that House, they would not take from his Majefty all influence within the walls of his own palace. He had not mentioned, he faid, fubordinate offices, hut offices of a domeftic nature, fuch as kept the poffeffors neceffarily near the, perfon of the King. He put the noble Ld in the blue ribbon in mind of his former principles; that it was from their approbation of thofe principles, and not from the influence of his power, that the independent country gentlemen fupported. him; and that it was to his continuance in thofe principles that he must owe the continuance of their fupport.

Mr. Perceval had no objection to the addrefs; but, if it was perfifted in, wished to add an amendment, to affure his Majefty that the Houfe would fully fupport Ld Adv. allowed the neceffity that any Adminiftration he might be pleafed called for an Adminiftration; but could to form as long as they acted conftituE not agree to the propriety of fuch an ad-tionally. This would fhew that party dreis, fecret influence was not proved; motives had no part in the addrefs. his Majefty's promife had not yet had Mr. Fox could not fee any neceflity for time to operate. The learned Lord faid, the amendment. The addrefs itfelf fufhe was confident in the idea of the right ficiently expreffed the temper of the hon. Gent [W. Pit], that his Ma- Houfe. The learned Lord had obferved, jefty's intentions were to comply with that the refignation of Mr. Pitt would the wishes of his people, and that nothing remove one great obftacle to the wifhedfat nearer his heart than appointing an F for arrangement. Did the learned Lord Administration which fhould have the mean to infinuate that the right hon. Genconfidence of Parliament. His Lordship tleman's remaining in office was the was under fome embarraffment, he faid, caufe of the delay? He did not believe it. to give utterance to the feelings of his If the learned Lord's inexpreffible reamind, confiftently with that del cacy in fons have no better, foundation, the Houfe argument, which on fo tender a fubject would by no means be warranted to delay words were wanting to exprefs; he the addrefs a fingle moment. would therefore endeavour to make him-gard to the right hon. Gentleman's [Mr. felf intelligible by certain corollaries Pitt refponfibility, while he continued from which it might be eafy to draw cer- to hold the office, there could not be the tain conclufions. The Houfe had that day leaft fhadow of doubt about it; not that heard, that a right hon. Gent. near him he Mr. F.] meant to charge him as the [Mr. W. Pitt], of whofe talents and in- caufe of the delay. Without proof he tegrity no man had a higher opinion than could fay nothing either one way or the himfelf, had, within thefe two hours,H other. The learned Lord had faid, "If refigned his office of Chancellor of the there had been delay !" My God, can that Exchequer. Suppofe it had been the be doubted! but "culpable delay!" unwith of the highest authority in this doubtedly every delay was culpable. country to have placed that right hon. The only queftion now is, Whether,

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arrangement not to take place? Surely the fecret influence fo much complained of could not be the fole cause. The coalefcing parties were perfons of fuch oppofite opinions, that it aftonished the A world how they ever could be brought together. Either the noble Lord must lave given up his political opinion to Mi. Fox, or Mr. Fox to the noble Lord. Conceffions to each other could never make them meet. It was fit therefore that the Houfe fhould know the fact. fle was against the addrefs.

under the prefent circumftances, it would not be better to withdraw the noble Earl's motion, rather than divide upon it? It eit er of the learned Lords or the right hon. Gent would fo much as Lint only, that they believed an arrangement would fpeedily be formed, he would by all means advife the noble Earl to withdraw his motion. On the prefent occafion, however Gentlemen might difer in other matters, there was but one opinion. That an Administration was abfolutely neceffare. Where then there was a general concurrence, why put on Mr. W. Pitt tole in reply to what had the appearance of diffention? An hon. been faid refpecting his refponfibility, Baronet [Sir W. Dolben] had called for and frankly declared he held himself remore than mere infinuation to fupport fponfible to the laft hour of his refigna the charge of fecret influence. The tion. If, during the laft fix weeks, he hon. Baronet and the Houfe had received had done what he ought not to have more, they had received the ftrongest done, or left undone what he ought evidence, felf-conf lion-they had been C to have done; or, in fact, had neglected toid that a Privy-Counfellor not a Mini- to pursue the public intereft when he fter might give his Sovereign advice, could have promoted it; he was ready to and not be oflenfible for the effects that admit his culpability, He was no friend might be produced by it. The noble to the prefent notion, because he thought Ld North had been called upon to it too precipitate. He would not pledge declare, Whether he ever found his himself that fuch an arrangement as the fchemes fruftiated by any fecret influ- addrefs required would take place in a

ence, and he had anfwered in the negative.Dfew days; yet it was his opinion, that an This was not to be wondered at. The right hon. Gent, and the Minifter were in unifon, and the meafures advised were the meafures to be purfued. But what would be the confequence of fuch advice, were the Minifter for the time being to differ in fentiment from thofe who fhould fecretly give their advice without being refponfible for its effects? In fuch cafes, what was to be done? When every plan, concerted with the belt intentions, fhould be defeated by an invifible power, what could an honeft Minifter do but refign!

Adminiftration would be appointed in a few days for the conduct of public affairs.

Mr. For was glad to hear the right hon, Gent. fay fo much. He did not doubt, if there was the fmalleft probability of the bufinefs being done without the ad drefs, but that lie noble friend would forE bear to prefit. He wished for nothing more than an established Administration,

A number of arrangements had, he faid, appeared in the public prints, manifefly calculated to prejudice him and thofe who acted with him, but they were 100 abfurd to be credited, and too difcordant ever to coalefce. Unanimity was his grand object. It was what he withed for in that Houfe, and much more to in the Cabinet. Without that, nothing, he was fure, could profper, and with it much might yet be done for the falvation of the empire.

Mr. T. Pitt could fee nothing of that, criminality in the delay fo much infifted upon by the hon. Gent. If there were, he could not think the hon. Gent. and thofe with whom he coalefced to wholly innocent as they would have the Houfe believe. If there was no infurmountable difficulties on their part, how came the

Mr. Martin could not fee how an Ad

miniftration could be established on principles fo oppofite. The coalition was flange and unnatural. It was eprobated by people without doors, and iidiculed by many within.

Ld North infifted, that, though neither fide had given up their puncipies, they could notwithflanding act together for the public good. Would any man fay, G that, fuppofing the whole number who com, oled the cabinet were Whigs, they would not act together for the public good? On the contrary, were all its Members Tories, would they be lefs zealous? Were then the ableft of thefe two parties to unite, will any man be ha.dy enough to maintain that either would relinquish his motives of action, and adopt the contrary extreme, merely for the fake of oppofition? Men of ability and probity will ever be of one opinion where the intereft of the nation requires a coalition. In matters merely

fpecu

for joining in the coalition. He made no

fpeculative men of oppofite parties do not differ more from the adverse party, than doubt but a time would come when he they frequently do from one another. fhould have the applaufe of the nation And were no Administration ever to be for the caly meafure by which the ho formed till men who agreed in all points A nour of the British name could be again could be found to occupy the different retr.ved. He was confident that coalidepartments of state, he believed the tion was the only means that could be nation might remain without an Admi- adopted to establish an Administration on niftration till Doomsday. a firm and broad basis.

Sir Wm. Dolben defired to be underftood to with never to fee the day, when his Majefty's immediate fervants should be the creatures of a Minifter. He would not, for inftance, have the Lords of his Majefty's bed-chamber obey the ned of a Minifter, nor fear to be difplaced if they came not when they were called. Mr. Fox role to explain. The motives, he faid, which induced him to agree to the coalition fo ftrongly reprobated, were, that nothing but a coalition of parties could remove the political ob ftructions given to the bufinefs.of the ftare. He recollected the time when every man expreffed his hope that jarrings and bickerings might ceafe: but no fooner had that defirable event been accomplished, than a new complaint had arifen, and the coalition thus formed was reprobated as unnatural and unconftitutional, becaufe there was a junction for Mr. Martin remarked that the noble the public good. He had ever contended, Lord and right hon. Gent. had both preand ever fhould contend, that this country fumed that their difference in great conwas only to flourish, her glory to be main- ftitutional points was well known to the tained, and her commerce to be preferved, E Houfe; he, for his part, wifhed to know by the unanimity of Parliament; and as in what they were agreed. that was a maxim not to be in fair reafoning contradicted, fophiftry could only fend it abroad, that a junction of opinions, hitherto oppofite, was not the proper means to effect that defirable purpofe.

Sir Rd. Simonds fail, the roble El who made the motion bad manifefted a B truc Chriftian forgivenefs. He formerly threatened to impeach the noble Ld, and now he was for having him restored to all his former confequence. He was happy to hear, he faid, that the gentlemen who had formed the coalition were to ferve their country without the emoluments of Coffice. If that was true, they fhould have his firm fupport. If otherwife, he thought the coalition fo unnatural, that nothing could be expected from it.

Sir Ch. Turner could not reconcile the idea thrown out by this new-formed coalition, that the King was not to be al lowed fo much as the affiftance of a private friend to whom he might unbolom himfelf on the weighty affairs of ftate. The common rights of the meanest subjects were to be denied the fovereign by

a doctrine as novel as unconftitutional; and fo directly oppofite to the wellknown principles of the noble Lord in the blue ribbon, that, if he adopted it, he muft become a metamorphofe politically wonderful indeed!

Mr. Burke rofe in juftification of his own political conduct. In Parliament he had uniformly voted with those noble' and firm fupporters of the conftitution (the Houfe of Cavendish), and he trufted be always should. He had been blamed

E of Surrey acknowledged that he laft year endeavoured to difplace the noble Lord, becaufe he then thought his meafures tended to the ruin of his Dcountry. He was now as anxious to reinftate him, because he thought no Administration could be permanent without him.

Col. Hartley difapproved the motion, and though it was now understood that it was withdrawn, he hoped, if the arrangement was not brought forward as expected, the noble Earl would again

renew it.

F
E. of Surrey perfectly coincided with
the laft fpeaker's opinion. And the
queftion being put was agreed to with-
out a divifion.

GSIN

(To be continued. )

MR. URBAN. Aug. 10. INCE fo much has been faid about planting and preferving Oaks, it is furpriting that fo little notice has been taken, even by botanifts, of the two dif. ferent kinds of this tree that grow in England. Both Gerrard and Parkinfon mention but one fort. Evelyn, who was rather a lover of trees than a botanist, has not diftinguished them. Even Ray has not defcribed them with his ufual

accuracy. Miller contounds the two forts in his dictionary, and his errors are continued in the laft edition of Eve

lyn's

n's Sylva. What little notice has been taken of the two different kinds of thefe trees has been by calling one Quercus mas, and the other Quercus femina, titles that Linnaus's explanation of the fexual fyftem has rendered improper; the oak being monacious (i.e. having male and female bloom in different parts of the fame tree); whereas plants that are properly male and female have male bloom only on one plant, and female on another, and are therefore called diacious. The male oak, as it is called, has longish ftalks to the leaves, and no stalks to the acorns. The female tree has little or no ftalks to the leaves, and very long falks to the acorns. The two forts carry alfo a very different appearance in their foliage, the leaves of the Quercus as being much larger, more regularly finuated, or indented, and of a deeper green, than the other; fo that this tree in a vigorous flate much refembles the edible chefnut. The Quercus mas, contrary to Miller's affertion, is not the common oak of the country; fo far from it, there are many counties in this kingdom which abound in oaks, and probably have not a fingle plant of this fort among them. Nay this tree is fo local, that it would have efcaped the notice of Ray, when he wrote his Synopfis, if he had not been informed of it by Bobart. The two kinds may be feen in Norwood, and is environs, growing promifcuoufly; which of them will make the largest timber I am not able to determine, but the Quercus mas certainly grows full as vigoroufly as the common fort whilft it is young, and its fuperiour verdure and elegant foliage recommend it to be cultivated for parks, and ornamental plantations, in preference to the other. Whether it be a different fpecies, or only a varicty, I am fatisfied from experiment that the young plarts will resemble the parent tree, though, to be abfolutely certaia of this in all respects, the planter muft wait 'till he can gather acorns from his planted oaks, a circumftance which the lives of few will admit of.

A vifit to thefe oaks in Norwood will furnish an object for the valetudinarian, when he takes his airings; and, if it tempts him farther into the ftudy of botany, it will engage him in an amufement very conducive to health, as it will often lead him abroad; and if he delights, with the venerable Hooker," to fee God's bounty fpring out of the earth," his pleasure will be increased, when he looks on the vegetable creation with botanic eyes?

T. H. W.

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MR. URBAN,

Aug. 11. Have long wifhed to fee an increase of correfpondents to the Gentleman's Magazine, on the practical part of the management of lands, and of the improvement of the various kinds of ftock thereon.-A correfpondent, in p. 485 of the prefent volume, has fuggefted feveral hints refpecting the method of procuring fine wool, by the ancients, by cloathing their fheep; a method which, if practifed by them, feems to be now totally loft: but I am apprehenfive it was not their practice to cloath their fheep, but rather to cover or shelter them from the inclemency of the feasons.

As I am neither a Greek nor a Latin fcholar, I do not pretend to infift on my fuppofition; but, having Dr. Trapp's tranflation of Virgil by me, I examined how Virgil was understood by him; and there I think it is plain that the management of theep, as recommended by that Roman fhepherd, are the fame that is now practifed by thofe farmers in and near a certain diftrict called Urchinfield, about the town of Rofs in Herefordshire, who are careful to obtain the fineft wool in England froin a fpecies of theep peculiar to that neighbourhood, and by a kind of management of their flocks peculiar to themfelves. I think their method can not be (in a few words) better defcribed than by the following Hines from Trapp : IF wool be thy delight, from prickly brakes And burs and thifties be thy flocks remov'd; Rich paftures fhun; foft fraw, white fleeces choofe,

And in warm huts thy fheep be foddered Till leafy fpring returns; and that the frofty ground [them: With fern or ftraw be littered underneath With liberal hand indulge them food and leafy browze; [of hay.

Nor fhut, while winter lafts, thy magazines
And when gay spring returns

To the lawns and paftures fend both goats
In Scythia's realms, and near the Ifter,
and sheep:
There clofely houfed they keep their herds.

As I know little of the original in which this account is given, I can fay nothing how it will bear fuch tranfla tion; but if the whole of what Virgil fays of fheep and goats be duly attended to, I am apprehenfive his account of theep, when abftracted from the goats, is much as expreffed above. I could with, and therefore recommend, that thofe correfpondents who are learned would, when they quote a sentence in any other language lian English, at leaft in rural

affairs,

affairs, give its tranflation, that the unlearned as well as the learned may be benefited, and alfo an old correfpondent,

RURICOLA GLOCESTRENS.

MR. URBAN, Lyndon, July 19. N your June Magazine, p. 480, F. Y. afks the reason why many of the afh and oak trees` have this fpring put forth their leaves at top, but not at the bottom? The cafe in Rutland was this: they all put out very well in May, but the 25th and 26th of that month were very frofty mornings, and the rime was particularly tharp in the meadows, fo as entirely to kill the young leaves on many of the oak and ash trees which grew there, but did not hurt thofe which grew on the hills; this was feen very plainly in feveral different valleys near us, and fome of the trees were, as he fays, killed at bottom, and green at top; and I find by a letter that there was the fame kind of blaft in Hampshire. I do not find that any other trees fuffered by it but oaks, am, and walnut trees, and they were three weeks before they put out again, and the walnut trees longer. F. Y. may fee whether this was the cafe at Bontcon, for the dead leaves fill continue withered and dried on the branches, and the trees have now all put out fresh fhoots.

Yours, &c.

T. B.

In the Decifion of the following Question reSpecting the LONDON-BRIDGE WATERWORK's fo many fimilar Bodies are interified, that it would imply a want of Attention in us to omit it.

W

EDNESDAY (July 2.) the Judges gave their opinions in the Court of King's-Beach, on the question lately argued before them, Whether the Proprietors of the Water-works at London-bridge were liable to payment of the rate affeffed for the purpose of making good the injuries done to the fufferers by the rioters in June 1730?

Mr. Justice Buller ftated the cafe particularly, the leading circumstances of which were as follows: That the Proprietors of the Water-works poffeffed property in the faid works, fituated in London, and in the borough of Southwark :-That their property was rated by the Commiffioners of the Landtax at 2,500l. That the Juftices and ConHables, under authority of the Statute, had affeffed them at the rate of one thilling and two pence in the pound, for the purpofe of reimburfing the fufferers in the riots of June, 1780. This affelment the Propriefors refuted to pay, and were diffrained for the fame in confequence thereof,

Justice Buller obferved, It had been argued at the Bar, that the Proprietors were

not liable, because they had never been called upon to pay to any rate but the Land-tax, and because the New River Company never had been affeffed: But the fimple question before the Court was, Whether the Proprictors of the Water-works of London-bridge were rateable or not? The learned Judge was of opinion, that they were, and in fupport of his opinion he referred to the A&, by virtue of which the affeffment was made, 27 Elz. chap. 10. which directs that "the inbabitants thall be affeffed in proportion :☀ their abilities;" and then fays, that the Conftable, &c. fhall affefs,"

The word inhabitants he confidered fufficiently defcriptive of the Proprietors. Every man's ability depended on his property; the property of the Proprietors, by the rate of Land tax, was 2,500l. and according to their property they should be proportionably rated; and according to that rate they thould pay, unlefs fome legal objection was made; for the Statute fays, "every inhabitant thall pay according to his abilities."

Two objections had been made

First, That the thares in the Water-works were not rateable, requiring continual repair, and their value uncertain.

Secondly, That the Water-works were never rated before.

But in all cafes of property there was une certainty. In land, the profits depended upon ploughing, manuring, &c. and produce allo depended upon the feafons. Houfes too were uncertain, for the produce of their rents was cafual; and it was clear from the statement of the facts, that the produce of the Water-works amounted to 2,500l. per annum.

His Lordship then examined the feveral cafes which had been cited in argument at the Bar, remarking, that in all thefe cafes the question was, Does the property produce profit?"

Ufage had been urged in favour of the Proprietors of the Water-works; but ufaga could not make Law against a Statute, though it might thew the construction of a Statute, and then the ufage must be general. Profits rateable need not be natural. The Statute of William and Mary thews what is rateable for Land-tax, and that tax is not rated according to the grofs fum, but four fhillings in the pound according to the yearly value.

He obferved, that Mr. Davenport had atgued," that if the water had been carried in cafks, and not in pipes, it would not have been rateable;" but the means of conveyance made no difference, for the pump that produced the water would be, rateable, in proportion to its prodace. A fpring was rate able for its produce, according to the quantity of its produce and profits; and coals were rateable by Statute.

It had been objected that " allowing the Water-works to be riteable, yet the rate was bad, the Constable taxing too much."

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