prevail that the present Ld. Chancellor Chanc. Pitt, notwithstanding what the was to retire with a pension of 2,600l. a Hon. Gent. who had just sitten down had year, and the reverlion of a Tellership said, expressed his defire that the bill in the Exchequer befides; and that other might go on, as by the least delay other pensions to a very confiderable amount countries might get footing in America, were now agitating.

Awhich once established would not be Chanc. Pitt, in reply, said, the Teller- easily remored. He should not, howThip was in confequwice of a former pro ever, press it contrary to the opinion of mise made by his Majesty; and the pen- those who were more immediately interfion was subject to the revision of Par- ested in its success. He had no wish liament.

distinct from the general good; and if Mr. Powys thought, that if any excep-Bihat was properly attended to, his end tion to the regulations of last year was to was answered. be admitted, it ought to be in favour of Solic. Gen. had no objection to the Chancellors, who quit their professions deferring of the bill for further confiderafor an office which they hold only during tion. He was sorry that Ireland was pleasure.

not in a capacity at present to take part Some spirited altercation ensucd. The in the bill, and the rather as the Hon. balances in the hands of public accompt- Gent. I meaning Mr. Ecien] was not ants were mentioned, and Mr. Fox C authorised to use her name in it. But thought himself glanced at. He dira as that could not be, it was not to be exclaimed all concern in the balances due pečied that England should lose the opfrom his noble relation, vet eventually portunity of availing herself of circumacknowledged himself interested in feia

itances as thcy should arise, merely betling the account. The content feemed cause Ireland could not in the same into be grounded on who had profited mofo ftant parlake of them. It was, upon the at the public expence; and the conclu-D whole, agreed to polipone the hill till the fion was, that thole who had the greatest sense of the merchants principally conThare had the least gratitude. Little was cerned could be known. jaid respecting the merits of the Bill; it

March 6. was however read the second time, and Mr. Powys rose, to take the sense of ordered to be committed.

che House, as he had promised, on tlie 'The House went then into committee act of last year, for regulating pentions, on the bill for establishing a provisional F&c. He began by adverting to the critical intercourse with Ainerica.

Situation of the times, when a lynem was Mr. Eden ftrenuously opposed the set up and gloried in, of despising public progress of the bill.

He ridiculed the opinion, and acting upon principles reciprocity that was faid to bc the batis which set that opinion ar defiance; --when of the bill; for what had the Americans party bore fway, and when it might be to give for the privileges they were to thouglit presumptuous for men of his receive? They were now a foreig. description, who were neither the leaders power in every sense of the word; yet f nor followers of a party, to intermeddle to be treated on the footing of faroured with ftate affairs; yet, at such a time, subjects! They could grant no indul- when Adıninistration, which had long gences to Britons, becaule they were re been burning in the rocket, was now Itrained from so doing by their engage. quite extinguished, he could not hely ments with other states. They were to doing what he thought his duty. In be permitted a free trade to our West the diffolution of that Administration he India islands, and, by their situation, they could not, however, but lament the rewould soon fubftantially enjoy it to it Gtreat of one Right Hon. Gentleman now exciution of our own thipping; besides in his eye [Mr. W. Pitt), whole shining that Ireland, whosc Parliament, nos abilities would adorn any itacion; and being fitting, could take no measures in the rather as, now he was going to speak concert with us, would have realon to

of penfions, he had the mortification to complain, that though we had granted find that no compensation had been made then a free trade, we had prevented iyim tor quiring a profellion to which is them from reaping the advantages, if, would have been an ornament. That any, that were to be derived from it. H Right Hon Gent. liad ferved his county Upon the whole, as the bill was of such with an unimpeachable chiaracter; and magvitude as to involve the cominercial thougla in the gencial confederacy that interests of both countries, he thougot had been formed, he could not lend his it ought not to be futered to pass wich- fuffrage, and rather chose to retire than out a thorough investigation.

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with him what was more valuable than gulating the granting of pensions, &c. riches, the applause, the esteen, and the House trusts that the same restricthe admiration of his country.

tions will be observed in respect to any While Mr. Powys was warm in the penfion his Majesty may be advised to praises of the young patriot, he was grant antecedent to the 5th of April as interrupted by Mr. Marevn, who, spying by the said act are thenceforth ftrictly a peer below the bar, desired he might and abso!utely prescribed. be ordered to withdraw. The Speaker Mr. Marlyn seconded the motion. faid, he had ordered the Serjeant not to But Captain John Luttrell exprefled his permit peers to fit below the bar; but disapprobation, not only of the motion, thought on the present occafion it were bet- but of the whole act alluded to. He ter for the House to give the order. Mr. B was free to fay, that the power of the Martyn took the bint, and was about to Crown was by no means too great, nor Flore to clear the House, when the peer could he think it confiftent with the ho-, (Lord Wallingham) withdrew. nour of that House to go about to

Mr. Powys then proceeded to observe abridge it. To deprive his Majesty of on the pentions lately granted, and, after the free exercise of his munificence was approving that bestowed on the Chancel beneath the dignity of Parliament, and lor, took notice of the clause which left c perhaps beyond its conftitutional power. the power with the Crown to give pen- The noblest appendage of Royalty was 11ons beyond the extent specitied in the the power of rewarding merit; and to li. act to such persons as had been einployed mit his Majesty's bounty to the narin en bailies to foreign courts. On that row pitrance of a private gentleman, clause, he said, he should only remark, was, at once, to divest the Crown of that it first enabled the Crown to ein its munificence, and the King of his plov unfit persons, and then to reward highest gratification. them for their unfitness

. It had beend. The motion, however, so far as it re. remarked the day before, that the ope-spected the advisers of the late ignominiration of che act in question was not to ous peace, he was ready to Tupport: take effect till the sth of April, 1783, for, instead of reward, thev, in his opiand much had been laid, that, although nion, deserved censure. He was prothe letter of it had no force till then, the ceeding, when the Speaker intimated to spirit of it was binding upon Ministers; hin, that the question before the House and that, in as audible and distinct lan


did not properly connect with the adviguage as could be used, the bill cricusers of the peace. On which he bowed to Ministers, “ Forbear.” He was there- obedience to the intimation of the chair, fore not a little surprized to hear a and sat down. right hon. gent. high in office, excidii, Chancellor Pitt entered into a justifi“ Forbear! on what coinpulfion? Is cation of the different pensions that had it to nominated in the bond :”—To this lately been granted. Nobody, he said, he would reply',

could object to that given to the late It is not fo exprest; but what of that? F Chancellor of Great Britain.

J. was "Twere good you do so much for charity. not more than had been given to other For charity to the public; for charity to Chancellors; and as to the Tellership, an almo! bankrupt nation!

of the Exchequer, it was in consequence Of the only pensions that he had heard of his Majesty's promile when that nowere paffing through the offices, there bleman accepted the Seals. Two other was one to a noble perfon, of whom he pensions, he said, of 2000), a-year each had never heard the least dispraise; nor had he the smallest objection to any of the Genero Sir Joseph Yorke, the other to Lord

Grantham) he justified both from the gentlemen who had or were about to spirit and the letter of the act; their participate of the royal bounty; his only long and faithful services at the courts aim was, to lay fome reftraint on Minil- abroaci where they had resided would be ters from granting away the public mo remembered with gratitude by the fiey in pensions between the present day friends of peace, and the commercial inand the sth of April, contrary to the terests of this country. Two other pen. spirit and meaning of the act in question, fions, one of 7ool. á year, the other of and for that purpose lic movedl, That an H sool. a year, have been bestowed on two hemble address be presented to his Ma Clerks of the Treasury, who had been jetly, humbly to represent, that whereas long in the public service, anci whom, for los Majesty had been graciously pleased the fake of some official arrangements, to give his royal ailent to an act for rc it had been found ncceflary to superana


nuate. Another pension, he said, there mode of defending them; he did not like was, which the House well knew did to hear the paine of Majesty so frequently not originate with his Majesty's present introduced. By making the acts of Minita' servants, and that was one of 350l. a ters dependent on the promises of the year, promited to Mr. Morgan (now King, that responsibility which the conwith sir Guy Carleton) when he con- Astitution had placed in the advisers of the sented to go abroad, as a compensation for Crown was done away; and, befides, quicting his conneEtions at home. One Members could not speak with that pension more he should state, though freedom of measures which it was their ftrialy within the lerter of ite act, and duty to canvass, as if wholly univfluenced that was a pension of 20pl. a year granted by any personal restraints. With regard to a gentleman on his leaving the Tax tó the Lord Chancellor, he had long office, and coming into the service of the lived with him on terms of friendship; Treasurv, the firit being for life, the B he admired his abilities; and wished latter dependent on the change of Mi- them employed for the advantage of his nisters. -Having now, he said, fairly country; but he wished too that the prostated all the pensions and proceedings of vilion that had been made for him, prothat nature which had taken place in per as it most certainly was, lad' not the course of the summer, he trusted been rented on the promise of his Mato the candour of the House, declaring Cjelty. As to Lord Grantham's pension, himself ready to take his share of the re he frankly declared, that the penfion itsponsibility for having set his hand to self did not appear to him .fo objectionthem; but hoping at the same time that, able as the manner and time of gianting if there'was any thing wrong in having it. When Lord Grantham accepted granted them, the House would not the office of Secretary of State, his Mathink of revoking either those that had jefty promised him a penfion of 20001. been fully granted, or of stopping those a year whenever he thould quit it. that were not yet fully confirmed; but what did this lead to, if the practice would proceed to such measures as should prevailed, but a most dangerous and prevent the repetition of limilar errors, if alarming exertion of the Crown! By this errors they were. Under this imprellion, means the Crown could always obtain he hoped his honourable friend would con an administration without the least resent lo to modify his moiion, as to take gard to the sense of Parliament, or the away from it any words that might con confidence of the people ; he was very vey a retrospective censure; and when full in reprobating this practice. He it was so altered, it would undoubtedly E came next to speak of sir Joseph Yorke's meet with his chearful support. As to pention, which he fra: kly owned he that part of the honourable gentleman's could fee no necessity for. That gentle(peech in which he had done him the man, it was true, bad served his counhonour to speak of himn in terms which try for thirty years in foreign embaffies ; cxcited in his mind the inost sentible but the honours and emolumenis he had emotions, he could only say, that 10 received were, he thought, an ample Incrit them was the heiglit of his ambi- p recompence. He spoke of Mr. Mürtion; and with regard to thole other le


gan's pension as a mauer with which he wards that had awaited his colleagues in was unacquainted when in office; peroffice, le neither coveted, nor detired to haps, he laid, it might be known by the fare thein. Called upon, as he had been, noble Lord below him (meaning Lord at an early period of lite, to fill the ex- J. C.), yet it was not the less objea onalıed station in which he had been able. He thought the principle perni. placed, it was reward sufficient for him cious. Penfons granted as bribes to that his weak endeavours to discharge Gtake efficient offices, was a wanton walte the 'duties of it faithfully had not been of public money; and he could not help dilapproved ; and that he had done no- remarking, though with no invidious thing to forfeit the good opinion of that view, that when a noble and learned Houte, nor of his country.

Lord then in his eye (the Lord AdvoMr. Powys said, he had no objeĉtion to cate) accepted an office for life, at the the wording of his motion, so that the same time that he accepted the office of principle was not affected.

H Treasurer of the Navy, all the world Mr. Fox declared, he had no inclination wondered at the strangeness of the transto disturb or revoke any of the pensions action. The penfions to the two Clerks that had been so fairly and fully stated of the Treasury Mr. F. treated as a job to the House; bu: he did not entirely to accommodate the Minister; and as to approve of thic honourable gentieman's the pension of 200l. a year to the Clerk


taken from tie Tax-office to the Trea Mr.F-X, who justified the transacsury, he looked upon that in the same tion alluded to *, which no man in that light. He concluded his remarks on House, he said, ever thought dishonourthe policy of granting pensions, with able except the learned Lord. He deobierving as somewhat extraordinary, a clared upon his honour, that he knew that the Crown should think proper io A nothing of the condition on which the reward thole Ministers who had allisted learned Lord accepted the Treasurership in making the peace (which, to say the of the Navy; but he knew that the Lord bef: of it, had not met with the appro• Chancellor refuled putting the Seal to bation of that House), one of them with the Patent of Keeper of the Signet till honours *, the other with emolumento. he was appointed Treasurer of the Navy, Before he sat down, he begged leave to B Mr. R-by did not like the address digress a little from the principal subject moved for, nor the act alluded to. He of debate, to take notice of an extraordi- saw clearly that, by diminishing the innary remark made by the gentleman Auence of the Crown, many of the prewho moved the address, " that there were sentinconveniences had arisen; and thould some people who avowed, who boasted, the honourable gentleman's aêt continue and who gloried in acting independently in force, it would be impossible to carry of the public opinion ;” if his honourable Con the affairs of government in that friend meant to allude to him, he was House. So far from thinking there miftaken; he had neither arowed, were too many pensions, he wished there boasted of, por gloried in any such con had been at least one irore; and as that duet; but, on the contrary, had main would probably be the last opportunity tained the reverse. He lamented that that he should have (as in all likelihood his honourable friend, who was every the address would be carried, and then way respectable and independent, should. Ministers dared not advise the Crown to differ with him in opinion at a


grant another penhon) he would menwhen it was necessary that all good men tion the person to whom he alluded, hould agree. He pathetically exhorted namely, a pension to Lord Rodney. Ic all sides of the House to unite through a had been said on a former occasion, a due sense of the critical situation of the “Why a pention to that nobleman! He'll country: He adviled moderation and bring home a million of money.” So far unanimity, as the great means of restor-, from this, he was persuaded Lord Roding the national honour; and thanked ney's fortune was not equal to the fupMr. Powys for his vigilance in bringing port of his rank. Having laid this, he forward, at such a moment a motion fo exprefled a wish, that such an Adminis. wile, so necessary, and every way so tration might be formed as would rescue proper as that now before the House. us from the derision of the world. He

Lord Adv. thought it odd that, in a said, he would support such an Adminisspeech wherein unanimity was so ear tration whether formed on a broad or a nestly recommended, the 'hon. gent. narrow bottom. should at the same time indulge hiinfelf Chancellor Pilt begged pardon for hav. in matters likely to create diffenfion. As Ping omitted to speak of two pensions to what respected himself, he would that were in contemplation to settle, one assure the hon. gent. that he had not on Lord Rodney, and one on General obtained the place of Keeper of the Eliote for three lives, which, however, Signet in Scotland, as an inducement to were not to be paid out of the civil lift. accept the Treasurership of the Navy of Mr. Bing remarked on Mr. Fox's exEnglaad, a place which, he was willing change, that the Clerkship of the Pells to own, was very unfit for him, and which had no sooner patied out of his hands, he consented to hold only ill a more than it was increased a full thousand aproper person should be appointed to fill year to the gentleman for whom it was it. But he would not say he was untit purchased. for the place he had obtained in Scot Gov. Fobnfone charged gentlemen with land; and as his Majelty had been want of spirit to inect the question fairly. pleased to honour him with a patent They declare themselves enemies in place, he allured the honourable gentle- pensions in general, but were afraid man, he would never dithonour it by to speak of the individuals to whom they carrying it to market. This pointed al were granted. They were bold in adJuhon called up

* Exchanging the Clerh thip of the Pells * Mr. Sec. Townseod with a peerage,

in Ireland for a penfion in that kingdom, and Lord Grantham with 2000l, a year, to accommodaie government.


vancing a theory, but shrinked when Like the vile Straw that's blown about the they came to reduce it into practice. He street, digrefled to the American. war. He re Some needy members stick to all they meet, probated it as mean and unmanly to Coach'd, carted, trod upon, now loose, charge that war, the war of the House,

now fast, to the account of the noble Lord in the A

And carry'd off on some dog's tail at last. Blue Ribbon, because it had proved He concluded with approving the motion. unsuccesful. He neither approved the Earl Nugent rose to recommend Lieut. act ailuded to, nor the present motion. Gen. Bo;d to a penfion; but the House

Mr. Courtney, in a vein of satirical was clamorous for the motion, which, humour, kept the House in a continual after fome amendment, was agreed to laugh. He thought nothing could, be without a divison. more unreasonable than that Ministers,

March 7. who had signed a peace which had fallen The order of the day, for taking into under the censure of the House, should confideration the ordnance estimates, was be so far persecuted as to be deprived of read; but the earl of Surrey expreffing every species of consolation; and that, a desire for the House to suspend that while they had incurred the displeasure order till the Bill for establishing an inof Parliainent, and the abhorrence of tercourse with America fhould be taken their country, they might not be allowed into consideration; and the Lord Mavor the honest and reputable fatisfaction, C of London ftating to the House the lewhich was fill left them, of being a rious and alarming consequences that burthen to the public, or pensioners to were to be dreaded if the trade to Amethe Crown. It was unworthy of the libe- rica was not immediately opened, rality of the right honourable gentleman Mr. Pitt Thomas consented to it; and [Mr. Fox) to reflect on gentlemen for a motion was made that the Speaker do having made a previous stipulation with leave the Chair, which being seconded, rhe Earl of Shelburne, as nothing so Mr. Eden rose, lo state his objections strongly indicated their thorough know-D to the Bill, as it would introduce a total ledge of that Minister as the caution they revolution in our commercial system, had used in closing a bargain with himn which, he was afraid, would shake it to before they engaged to Tupport bis ad- its very basis. It was a business the ministration. The learned Lord, it has most complicated in its nature, and at been alledged, had one of his employ- the same time the most extensive in its ments fecured for life: and the other consequences, that lie had ever remem(Lord Grantham], we are told, had a bered in Parliament. One great objecpofitive promise of a penlion from the Etion to the Bill was, the claufe by which King; both of them equally inanifelt- the Navigation Act was to be affected. ing, by their conduct, that they had vir- In the late settlement with Ireland, those tue, and that it was necessary such virtue who were well-wishers to both Kingthould be purchased for a valuable con doras had introduced a c!ause into Mr. sideration before they would part with Yelverton's A&, by which the British it; and that they confidered a promise Navigation Act was made a part of the from the Earl of Shelburne as no confi law of Ireland; but Nill with this pro. deration at all. For the declaration that F viso, “ that it thall cease to be binding Mr. Rigby had made, that he would sup upon Ireland, whenever it ihould port administration whether on a broad “ceale to be binding upon Great Brior a narrow bottoin, Mr. Courney gave “ tain.” Now the Biil before the House the honnurable gentleman entire credit. compleatly repeals the Narrigarion. A&t His motive could be no other for so do in Great Britain, and of course repeals ing, than to preserve peace and unanimity at the lanie moment the fame Act in in this country; to maintain the duc G Jreland, so that Great Britain may bid equilibrium between the Clown and the adieu for ever to any Navigation A& people, and to hold to the last every ba the moment this Bill pafTes into a law. lance in his hand. He was aware, he Mr. Eden proceeded to enforce his for. faid, of the light in which malice would mer objections, adding the injury that Ice this declaration, n-mely, that it the would be cone to the sugar refinery, right honourable, gentk man rod bisa and to the tiade of England, by the exfriends could fufilant the coalition, they portation of our manufacturing tools, would; if they could not, they would which would enable the Americans to be satisfied with taking all they could rival our manufactures, and be a firoke gut from Ministers of any descripcion. that our commerce would scarce be able to


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