and residing in Pendle. (1) Is the place-name known elsewhere? (2) Is the family of that name still in existence? (3) Is there any direct evidence of connexion between the place and family? ABM. NEWELL. Todmorden.

Replies.

WILLIAM ROBERTS, ESQ. : WOODRISING.

(11 S. xi. 188.)

WILLIAM ROBERTS was a member of that famous coterie known as the Clapham Sect. He was a friend of Zachary Macaulay, of William Wilberforce, and of the Thorntons. Roberts was born at Newington Butts in 1767. The family to which he belonged came from Abergavenny. William Hayward Roberts, once Provost of Eton, was a relative, and it was through him that a monument was placed in the church of Abergavenny which records the family for three hundred years.

Roberts was the son of another William Roberts, who had been originally in the Army, but afterwards "took pupils," among whom was Henry Thornton. Roberts's mother expected her son to write his letters to her in verse, and to address his requests for clothes or pocket-money in rime. Specimens have been printed.

Roberts has had, perhaps, more than his share of biographical attention. He is included in the 'D.N.B.,' and in 1850 one of his sons, the Rev. Arthur Roberts, Rector of Woodrising, Norfolk, published The Life, Letters, and Opinions of William Roberts, Esq. From these sources very ample materials may be obtained. I will limit my remarks as far as possible to Roberts's association with Hannah More, and endeavour to supplement in a few particulars what has already appeared.

Roberts had two brothers and four sisters. Two of the sisters died comparatively young, and the two survivors, Mary Elizabeth and Margaret, became close friends of Hannah More. Mary Elizabeth Roberts died at Windsor Terrace, Clifton, 30 Sept., 1832. A notice of her life appeared in The Christian Observer for November, 1832. On one occasion when Hannah More's clothes caught fire and her life was in danger, Mary Elizabeth Roberts saved her.

Hannah More herself died 7 Sept., 1833 (also at Windsor Terrace, Clifton), leaving

Roberts's sister Margaret her executrix, who at once handed over the materials for a Life to her brother. He had not known Hannah More very well himself, although he had once, at any rate, visited her at Barley Wood.

Barley Wood, April 12 [1814].

MY DEAR SIR,-Not with less alacrity than the gates of Paris were thrown open to their generous foe will ours be opened to receive a kind friend. We hope you will stay with us as long as you can afford. I shall derive more gratification from my friendship than from my vanity; for we are not yet got into anything like beauty. As soon as you are pretty confident of your motions, write one line to say at what hour we shall send our chaise to Bristol on Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning to bring you hither. Should your motions be too uncertain, coaches come from Bristol, and pass within a mile of us two or three times a day; but we insist on fetching you if practicable. Yours, dear Sir, Very sincerely,

Your correspondent states that Roberts's Life' of Hannah More was issued in two volumes in 1838. It was first issued in four volumes in 1834. The 1838 edition was only a condensed form of the original book. It was still further abridged by the

Rev. Edward Bickersteth for The Christian's Family Library," and it was again reprinted as late as 1872. The original edition passed quickly through four editions, each of 2,000 copies. The Quarterly Review (vol. lii. p. 416) made fun of it. It is, indeed, a meagre and lifeless affair, and not worthy of the subject.

Roberts lived at various addresses, and the first residence named is Point Pleasant, Wandsworth. This was in 1783. In August, 1828, he lived at Clapham "in a house adjoining St. Paul's Chapel." Here he lived for seven years. In June, 1835, he removed to Wimbledon; and in 1839 he went to live at Shalford, near Guildford. In 1844 he resided at Abbey Orchard House, St. Albans, and there he died 21 May, 1849. He married Elizabeth Anne, daughter of Radclyffe Sidebottom. He had ten children. Of these, one, already named, the Rev. Arthur Roberts, was Rector of Woodrising, Norfolk, from 31 March, 1831, until his death, 3 Sept., 1886. (See The Times, 7 Sept., 1886; Record, 10 Sept., 1886; also Foster's Alumni' and Boase's 'Modern Biography.'

In 1838, when Roberts was touring in Wales, he wrote to his daughter Ellen, after visiting the church where his ancestors are buried :

"We went into the church, which is remarkable for its proportions and a beautiful circular gallery; and there we perused the mural tablet which carries the pedigree of our family through a very long series. This was put up by the late Provost of Eton, who added some elegant Latin verses. There is a chapel in the church in which many members of the Pembroke family were buried, and where there is a little brass plate on the wall over the tomb of a Mrs. Margaret Roberts, daughter of Herbert Colebrook, cousin of Lord Herbert of Cherbury, who was brother of the poet Herbert. She was buried there with her son, Herbert Roberts. Her husband, John Roberts, married three other wives, and we are descended from his second wife, not Margaret Herbert, or we should claim kindred with the Pembroke family. The house which once belonged to the Robertses is now the Old Bank, but the family of the Robertses is well remembered in the place."

A charming portrait, by Richard Woodman the younger, is attached to the Memoir of William Roberts.

I date this reply with some interest from the address whence so many of Hannah More's books were issued, and where she was a frequent visitor.

A. L. HUMPHREYS.

July 7, 1886. The Rev. A. Roberts of Woodrising, Norfolk, now in his 86th year, and declining health, is an interesting old man. He spends his life much among books, and has some rare volumes and many relics of Mrs. Hannah More. He told me their families had been intimate, and that it was his father who wrote the well-known memoirs of that lady. I noticed a pretty miniature of Mrs. H. More when quite old, and some sketches of Barley Wood and other places connected with her name.'

I may add Mr. Roberts died in this year. “The small and remote little village and tiny church of Woodrising [I am quoting further notes made at the same time] has much of interest. On the floor of the chancel is a slab to Sir Francis Crane, Knight of the Garter; he it was who revived the art of tapestry in England, establishing some large works at Mortlake. He had been Ambassador to France in Charles I.'s time, who awarded him 1,000l. a year as pension. Here also, under a canopy of flat stone, attached to the wall on the north side of the chancel, and with two ancient helmets lying upon it, is the recumbent effigies of Sir Robert South well,in fine preservation. Attached to the old helmet is still the ancient crest, and above, carved in stone, a coat of arms with many quarterings; on the floor of the chancel close by a brass tablet records that Sir Robt. Southwell's son was also buried here, whose wife was the eldest daughter of Thos. Howard, the Lord High Admiral in Elizabeth's

reign. Mr. Roberts informed me that by some the tomb of Sir R. Southwell is thought to have he did not share. This Sir Richard had been Henry been that of Sir Richard Southwell, an opinion VIII.'s executor, and a Roman Catholic of persecuting predilections. There are also many memorials to the Weyland family, who owned Woodrising at a remote past, and I believe still own it. It was in this family that the Babes in the Wood legend had its origin, and not in that of Lord Walsingham, as is constantly stated. The farm-house in the Weyland Wood, in Thompson parish, is still pointed out as the residence of the Cruel Uncle.' I have heard it stated, though I could not vouch for its truth, that at a former period the parish of Thompson, near Woodrising, was once gambled for at a house in Essex, and so passed from the Weyland into the De Grey family.'

Paddock Wood, Kent.

W. L. KING.

[PRINCIPAL SALMON thanked for reply.]

WOOLMER OR WOLMER FAMILY (11 S. xi. 208).—It may assist MR. JOHN LANE in his

research to mention that in or about the year 1861 there was a Rev. Shirley Woolmer who frequently visited my old school, Chatham House, Ramsgate, when the Rev. (afterwards Canon) " Alty" Whitehead was principal. I remember him well, and believe he was a relation of the family. At any rate, the daughter was named Shirley after him. CECIL CLARKE. Junior Athenæum Club.

descendant. He was born at Exeter, 20 Dec., Possibly Alfred Joseph Woolmer was a 1805; exhibited at the R.A., 1827 to 1850; at the R.B.A.; and at the Liverpool Society of Fine Arts, 1859-60. Lived at Fortis Green, Finchley, in 1860. Died 19 April, 1892.

THOS. WHITE.

Junior Reform Club, Liverpool.

JOSEPH FAWCETT (11 S. xi. 208).

He was

joint pastor from 1780 to 1787 of the Marsh Street Meeting, and distinguished himself as a very popular anti-Trinitarian preacher. He was the morning preacher at Walthamstow, and is said to have had the largest and most genteel audience that ever assembled in a Dissenting place of worship. Mrs. Siddons and the Kembles attended his services frequently, and a contemporary says that his talents for the pulpit were of a high order, and commanded general admiration. His colleague at Walthamstow was the Rev. Hugh Farmer, a man of considerable note both as preacher and writer. When Farmer died in 1787, it became necessary for Fawcett to resign, as there were some differences as to matters of doctrine between him

discontinued after 1890, though not a weekly but an annual publication, contains a record of the leading plays produced during this period, with their casts and illustrations -the latter during the first seven years only. WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.

The Figaro, which flourished as a weekly or bi-weekly paper for some years, covered part of the above period, and had many sketch-portraits of theatrical and other celebrities. The writer has a scrapbook with a large number of such portraits, which might be available if their reproduction is contemplated. W. B. H.

J. HILL (11 S. xi. 208).-This engraver does not appear to have done much work; at all events, one meets it but rarely. Redgrave in his Dictionary of Artists' calls him a clever artist, and says that he produced some good plates in "mezzotint." This, I think, must be an error for aquatint. He did some lake-views after Charles Dibdin (who was as good an artist as he was a song-writer), and later went out to America, where he was living in 1824.

F. H. H. GUILLEMARD.

E. C. R.'s question evidently refers to John Hill the etcher, who was one of the artists who served Ackermann. He worked between 1805 and 1822, and later did work in the United States. Hill was also a mezzotinter. W. H. QUARRELL. [COL. MALET and MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE thanked for replies.]

THE ROYAL REGIMENT OF ARTILLERY (11 S. xi. 151, 215).—It is possible that Henry T. Fauquier, who died in 1840, was the son of Thomas Fauquier, gentleman-in-waiting to Queen Charlotte, and his wife Charlotte, third daughter of the Very Rev. and Hon. Edward Townshend, D.D., Dean of Norwich, and granddaughter of Charles, second Viscount Townshend, K.G., and relict of John Norris, Esq., of Witton Park, co. Norfolk.

Mr. and Mrs. Fauquier had several children, I believe, one of whom was the Rev. G. L. W. Fauquier, Rector (and patron) of West Haddon, Northamptonshire, whose daughter died a few years ago, leaving many miniatures of the Townshend family. The Fauquiers are connexions of mine through the Townshends.

JAMES DURHAM,
formerly Attaché,
H.M. Diplomatic Service.

Cromer Grange, Norfolk.

BARRING-OUT (11 S. viii. 370, 417, 473, 515; ix. 55; x. 258; xi. 32, 199). There is a good account of a school barring-out in the North Country in Mr. W. T. Palmer's 'Odd Yarns of English Lakeland,' 1914, pp. 57-60. G. L. APPERSON.

SAVERY FAMILY OF DEVONSHIRE (11 S. xi. 148, 196, 218, 238).-The Savery pedigreedoes not show any connexion with Roelandt Savery (1576-1639), animal painter, of Courtrai, son of James Savery, animal painter, of Courtrai, 1545, who died of the plague at Amsterdam in 1602. Tristram Risdon in his 'Survey of Devonshire' says:—

"The Savery family descended out of Brittany, have lived divers descents in the parish of Fenton, and in the reign of Elizabeth we find them seated. at Totnes." LEONARD C. PRICE.

Essex Lodge, Ewell.

HISTORY OF THE BERKELEY FAMILY (10 S.. x. 167). Since writing my note on Lysons's uncompleted History of the Berkeley Family, I have found that the pages there mentioned were all that he printed. In the catalogue of the library of the Rev. 12-13 July, Samuel Lysons, sold at Sotheby's, 1880, lot 274 is there described as follows:

Lysons (S.), Extracts from a MS. History of the Berkeley Family, 39 printed and 210 manuscript pages, never finished, and printing stopped by the author; see his reply to Lady Berkeley,. and 3 autograph letters from her Ladyship prefixed, 1799.'

This was bound with Fosbroke's Berkeley Manuscripts,' and purchased by Bernard Quaritch. His representatives are unable to tell me what became of the volume, ard as it does not seem to be in the British Museum, I shall feel glad if any reader of N. & Q.' can indicate its whereabouts.

Gloucester.

ROLAND AUSTIN.

AUTHOR OF PARODY WANTED (11 S. xi. 150). When I first saw this couplet quoted (probably in the late eighties) it was credited to "Josh Billings (i.e., Henry WheelerShaw, 1818-85). WALTER JERROLD. Hampton-on-Thames.

Hinduism in Europe and America. By Elizabeth A. Reed. (Putnam, 6s. net.)

THIS book was written to very good purpose. There is no doubt that alien cults of a secretly devastating nature are insinuating themselves more and more deeply into our Western civilization, and principally among the leisured women of Western Europe and America. The writer of this book does well to expose the recklessness of many of the statements by which the professors of these systems bolster up their claims. She does well, too, in pointing out the "unreality," of the adoption of these practices and beliefs by a European or American; and, again, the terrible degradation and misery to which, in many cases, these have led down.

What her book lacks, however, is fairness towards the Hindu religion as seen among its own people. Monier Williams, whom she quotes frequently, as if he had no good to say of it, points out with admirable clearness and justice that certain methods of devotion which to a Westerner are excessively repellent, and seem to argue moral depravity, are not of such appearance or such effect in respect of Indian natives. She misapprehends, or it might be more exact to say that in her laudable eagerness to combat a great evil she somewhat distorts, the Hindu view of the spiritual and material worlds as they are set over against one another. Hinduism in itself is by no means so wholly detestable a thing as she here makes it out to be; still less is the Veda-though some of the claims made for it are exaggerated-so barren, or so uniformly childish in its philosophy, as she would have us suppose.

Her case would actually have gained by a more impartial account of her subject, for the inadequacy of Hinduism as a world religion is best and most strikingly made manifest by comparing its acknowledged excellences with the corruptions to which certain of its own tenets directly lead.

The Journal of the Friends' Historical Society. Vol. XII. No. I. (Headley Brothers, 28.) THE opening article, Old Glasgow Meeting-Houses,' by Mr. William F. Miller, gives an account of the first Meeting-House in that city. It was founded in Third Month, 1691, and was the commencement of what is, at the present time, by far the largest assembly of Friends in Scotland. Prof. Lyon Turner continues the list of 'Presentations in Episcopal Visitations, 1662-79.'

Mr. Joseph J. Green gives an account of Mercy Ransom, née Bell (1728-1811). In her diaries frequent reference is made to Samuel Fothergill's sermons. On the occasion of a parting meeting at Gracechurch Street he preached two sermons of an hour and a half each.

Ella Kent Barnard provides notes on the originals of The House of the Seven Gables.' Col. Pyncheon, it is said, represents Col. John Hathorne (who died in 1717 magistrate of Salem), the great-grandfather of the author, who "made himself so conspicuous in the martyrdom of the witches that their blood may fairly be said to have left a stain upon him." Reference is made to him in Longfellow's 'New England Tragedies.' His father William, who emigrated to America from Wiltshire about 1630, was also a bitter persecutor, and the Quakers suffered much at his hands.

The

proposed publication of the parcel of letters Under Supplement No. 13 is announced the discovered some years ago at Devonshire House, There are about 250 original letters of early Friends, ranging in date from 1654 to 1688. interest and support of the readers of The Journal are requested. The subscription price is 38. benevolence in time of need just as they are doing Friends in 1745 showed their loyalty and now. Among the notes we find that the Friends in Darlington, hearing that the Duke of Cumberland was coming from the South when the winter woollen waistcoats in four or five days at their was very severe, set to work and furnished 10,000 own expense.

MR. J. EDWARD FRANCIS regrets that he is compelled this week to reduce the number of pages. The reduction is made necessary in part by difficulties arising out of the War, and in part oy delay in the receipt of a consignment of paper which was required to ensure earlier publication in view of the Easter holidays.

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