4th S. X. OCT. 19, '72.] NOTES AND QUERIES. portion of the old cracked bell formerly at Cobberley "the poor beetle that we tread upon in corporal sufferance feels a pang as great as when a giant dies," but that they feel to a certain extent is, I should imagine, an undoubted fact. I hold that, them to as painless a death as possible, and I fear even in destroying vermin, we are bound to put that scalding water must inflict upon them a great borax seems to be a very effectual and humane deal of needless suffering. F. C. H.'s remedy of but I am glad to say they have one, and I shall try it next time the crickets make their appearance; pre Rectory, Clyst St. George. WORMS IN WOOD (4th S. x. 30, 136, 197.)--I wrote "saturation," not "salivation" of the ova. I tried saturation with a solution of corrosive sublimate in my first experiments in 1861, and cannot endorse the recommendation of this method as made by E. L. (136). It might do if applied to the back of a panelled picture, as in P. R.'s case, sent. I find that the superstition about the illbut even then it would probably injure the pic-nearly all departed of their own accord for the ture if the wood were sufficiently saturated to luck that will follow the wilful slaughter of a kill the worms. I found this solution totally inapplicable to wood carvings when applied to the surface, as it left a metallic-looking deposit upon the work. Several years' experience has proved that vaporization is the safest, surest, and cleanest method, if the difficulty of an air-tight glass case, GEORGE WALLIS. box, or room can be met. South Kensington Museum. BOYS, BOYES, BOYSE, BOYCE (4th S. x. 165, 238). In the Glossaire de la Langue Romane you have "Boise: Bûche, gros bâton, rondin; en bas lat: Boisia." Hence, probably, de Boys, du Bois, Duboys, a very common name in France, so that people bearing that name often add to it that of some locality, birthplace, or otherwise, such as Dubois d'Angers, Dubois de L'Etang, de Boys-Robert, &c. In the same Glossary you find at the word "Buche: Un brin de paille ou de bois; en bas lat: Busca, de Bustum, dont on a fait Bois, Bosquet, bûcher, bucheron, boquillon. Buchier, Bucher, Marchand de Bois." You say, in common parlance, of people "Ils se sont fighting hard against each other, bûchés comme des portefaix." Buche: bouche, ouverture: bucca. "Puis après si froterez Vos dens et gengives assez 66 Enseignemens d'Aristote. CRICKETS (4th S. x. 205, 252.)-I am much obliged to SENEX and to your respected correspondent F. C. H. for their kind replies to my query as to the best means of getting rid of these troublesome creatures. A "cricket on the hearth," when one is in a lazy humour, is a pleasant enough accompaniment to the flapping of the flame or kettle whispering its faint undersong"; but when reading I find their chirp peculiarly irritating and distracting, more especially since they managed to find their way into the sitting-rooms. I hope SENEX will forgive me if I protest against his use I am far from thinking that of boiling water. to the landlady of the lodgings I was staying in at cricket has not died out. I mentioned the subject the seaside in the spring, and asked her advice how to get rid of them, and she thought "I had better leave them alone!" JONATHAN BOUCHIER. BURIAL IN GARDENS (4th S. ix. passim; x. 76, 138.)—In giving an account of Dr. William Bentley, a celebrated physician, who died Sept. 13, 1680, and was buried at Northwich, Ormerod's History of Cheshire mentions that "The body of Dr. Bentley is interred in a vault at the summit of the garden, where his tomb was discovered in taking down a summer-house built over it."-History of Cheshire, vol. iii. p. 92. Article "Northwich." When living at Sevenoaks (a quarter of a century ago), I heard it said that a man who called G. B. himself a Supralapsarian buried his daughter in his garden under a strawberry-bed. Upton, Slough. NAMES OF STREETS IN SHREWSBURY (4th S. x. 226, 263.)-To the list of singular names of streets in this town given in previous numbers, may be added Murivance, Frankwell (anciently Frankvyle), Bellstone, Belmont, and Roushill. To none of these is "street" or any other appellation added. MR. PRESLEY spells Wyle Cop wrongly in adding an "e" to Cop, and he is in error in making the two words into one. According to Owen and Blakeway's History of Shrewsbury (vol. i. p. 124), in Henry the Third's time Shoplatch was also spelt G. BENTLEY. Scotteplach. Upton, Slough, SIR WALTER SCOTT AND BURTON (4th S. x. 7, 118.)-The racy and original aphorism of Bailie Nicol Jarvie which your correspondent discovered in The Anatomy of Melancholy will be found in the earliest known collection of Scotch proverbs. This work, the Adagia Scotica, appeared in 1668, and is probably a compilation of Robert Braithwaite. It is of great rarity, but some account of its contents may be gathered from Payne Collier's JULIAN SHARMAN. Catalogue of the Library at Bridgewater House. MILTON'S "AREOPAGITICA" (4th S. x. 107, 133, 188.) "And me perhaps each of these dispositions, as the subject was whereon I entered, may have at other times variously affected; and likewise might in these foremost expressions now also disclose which of them swayed most. . . .”—Arber, p. 31. I incline to the belief that the suggestion of Lord Lyttelton, to the effect that "I" may be omitted before the verb in English, as in Latin or Greek, contains the solution of the difficulty as to the subject of "might disclose" in the above passage. "If you suffer your people to be ill educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them-you first make them thieves, and then punish them." C. T. RAMAGE. "LA PRINCESSE DE CLÈVES" (4th S. x. 207, 236.)-MR. MASSON's reply is ample and comprehensive; but it will, probably, be a farther satisfaction to MR. PRESLEY (and others) to learn that this work is by no means rare, being readily obtainable at the foreign libraries in London. Madame de Sévigné, with La Rochefoucauld, and Whether the great intimacy of its author with other distinguished characters of the day, casts upon it an adventitious lustre, not even yet dis Some instances of this omission are to be found in Shakspeare; but, which is more to the point, Milton has himself omitted the pronoun of the first person where modern usage would require its pre-pelled, it is impossible to say; but the fact remains sence in the following passages:— "For that part which preserves every man's copy to himself or provides for the poor I touch not, only (1) wish they be not made pretences to abuse and prosecute honest and painful men. . . ."—Areopagitica (Arber, p. 34). "Then (1) feed on thoughts, that voluntary move Harmonious numbers . . ."-Par. Lost, iii. 37. "This is my Son belov'd, in him (I) am pleased." Par. Reg. i. 85. Perhaps some student of Milton will be able to add to these instances. I am much obliged to C. A. W. for his information bearing upon Milton's knowledge of the Huns and Norwegians. E. F. M. M. Birmingham. "OUR BEGINNING SHOWS," &c. (4th S. x. 166, 234.) -Perhaps the earliest trace of this idea to be found among the Greeks is the following passage in Euripides (Supplic. 915):— ἃ δ ̓ ἄν μάθῃ τις, ταῦτα σώζεσθαι φιλεῖ πρὸς γῆρας.” οὕτω παῖδας εὖ παιδεύετε. "Such things as the child learns he retains till old age-strong incitements to train your children well." The great importance of early education to form right principles in the young was strongly impressed on the minds of Greek philosophers, and so much was this the case that Aristotle (Ethic. x. 10) maintains that it is the duty of the State to attend to it and to adopt compulsory education. He says: Κράτιστον μὲν οὖν τὸ γίγνεσθαι κοινὴν ἐπιμέλειαν καὶ ὀρθὴν καὶ ὁρᾶν αὐτὸ δύνασθαι· κοινῇ δ' ἐξαμελουμένων ἑκάστῳ δόξειεν ἂν προστ ήκειν τοῖς σφετέροις τέκνοις καὶ φίλοις εἰς ἀρετὴν συμβάλλεσθαι, ἢ προαιρεῖσθαί γε. "Therefore it is much the best course that the State shall attend to education, and see that it is on right principles, and that it should use compulsion if it be necessary; but if the State neglect this duty, then it would seem to be incumbent on each individual to try to lead his children and friends to a virtuous life, or, at least, to make this his deliberate object." Following out this idea of Aristotle, Sir Thomas More (Utopia, p. 21) says, very forcibly: that the Princesse de Clèves is still well known and easily procured, while the Grand Cyrus is very hard to come by.-"Habent sua fata Libelli.” NOELL RADECLIFFE. SIR BOYLE ROCHE (4th S. ix. 262, 324, 367.) | At p. 324, vol. ix., MR. CHARLES PETTET says of Sir Boyle: "On another occasion, in supporting the Habeas Corpus Suspension Bill in Ireland, he argued: 'It would surely be better, Mr. Speaker, to give up not only a part, but if necessary even the whole, of our constitution to preserve the remainder.'" I have before me the Sporting Magazine for April, 1795, by which it appears that the "bull” was not Sir Boyle's at all, although he was present at the debate when it was uttered. The extract runs thus: "In the debate on the Leather Tax in the Irish House of Commons, the Chancellor of the Exchequer (Sir John Parnell) observed, with great emphasis, That in the prosecution of the present war, every man ought to give up his last guinea to protect the remainder." This is so like the other story that probably they have the same origin. Sir Boyle's part in the Leather Tax debate came after the Chancellor's speech: "Mr. Vandelure said that the tax on leather would be severely felt by the bare-footed peasantry of Ireland; to which Sir Boyle Roche replied, that this could be easily remedied by making the under-leathers of wood!" The latter joke, I think, has not appeared in “ Ν. & Q.” A. R. Croeswylan, Oswestry. STIPER-STONES (4th S. x. 168, 232.)-This is the correct name for this bold range; though it is usually written as one word, "Stiperstones." The height, as determined by the Ordnance Survey, is 1,650 feet. Every visitor to Church Stretton ought to make an excursion to the Stiperstones. In the excellent Guide-book to the Shrewsbury and Hereford Railway, written by the Rev. G. F. Townsend, then Vicar of Leominster (and published by Partridge, Leominster), the following is one of six excursions from Church Stretton, planned by the Rev. G. Magee, vicar of Acton Scott: "Church Stretton to the Long-mynd Pole; thence by right-hand road to Ratlingchope, or Ratchope, four miles; thence by the Gattens and Hollies Farms to the Stiperstones, four miles; walk along the crest of the Stiperstones, and return by Nobury and Mynd-town; or (a shorter route) by Medlycott and Asterton over the Long-mynd to Church Stretton, six miles." The Long-mynd is 1,674 feet high; Malvern (the Worcestershire Beacon), 1,444; the Wrekin, 1,320. CUTHBERT BEDE. AS MR. TAYLOR's suggestion is right that a typographical error was made in this name in May (4th S. x. 168), I repeat my question in its correct form, and inquire the derivation of the word "Stiper-stones"? EDW. TOMLINSON. Hope Rectory, near Minsterley. TERMS USED IN CARVING (4th S. x. 249.)-In given, with short directions for accomplishing Dr. Salmon's Receipts, 1696, the terms are thus each: Break that goose. terms for "cutting up" the different items at table, him with wine, powder of ginger, and salt, and so, setting "Raise his legs and wings, and if you mince him sauce him on a chafing dish of coals to warm, serve him up." R. W. HACKWOOD. seems to PONTEFRACT (4th S. x. 226, 263.)-MR. TATE's remark about the pronunciation of this name lately, at Leeds, shows that even in Yorkshire the usual provincial stereotyped form is not followed always. The speakers whom he overheard or spoke to were (4th S. x. 254.)-As the inscription only INSCRIPTION ON DIAL OF CUBBERLEY CHURCH probably not natives. Possibly they were strangers, be this," "Fugit Hora Suevet," probably it is, to a who arrived only to see Prince Arthur open the new Park. A Pomfret man would hardly under-jecture as to its true reading. I will, at the risk stand them. Probably a lawyer on the Northern of being laughed at, hazard one. great extent, illegible, and will thus admit of conCircuit would be laughed at if he called the ancient Fugit Hora, sic est vita?-what appears as u being borough Pon-te-fract. May it not be being i, the middle e being only an abbreviation ic, and what in the last syllable seems to be e for est. The English then would be, The hour flies EDMUND TEW, M.A. Has a town a right to be called by the name its inhabitants or their nearest neighbours call it? A few years ago, C. H. (in "N. & Q.," 3rd S. xi.—such is life. 135) showed that it was unlikely that Pontefract, as we write it, ever possessed any claim to its Roman form; as he alleged that the name was brought over as Pontfrete by its Norman possessor from a town he had inhabited in France. In that case it must have been mere learned pedantry which dug out the title Pontefract. If the pronunciation follows the spelling, it is a curious but not rare instance of the modern powers of the printing-press over the most ancient custom. E. CUNINGHAME. This name is now pronounced as spelt. It used not to be so, and was pronounced and often spelt Pomfret; the Earls who took their title from that town always signed Pomfret. This is not the only place whose name is returning to its original pronunciation we hear now Cirencester where we used to hear Ciceter, Hunstanton instead of Hanston, Southwell instead of Southell. I believe this is owing entirely to the extension of railways; the porter calls out the name of the place, pronouncing it as spelt (?) for the benefit of those who do not know the local abbreviation. So also Derby, in place of the older pronunciation Darby, is, I believe, also owing to railway influence. Springthorpe Rectory. E. L. BLENKINSOPP. "MAN PROPOSETH," &c. (4th S. ix. 423, 537; Thomas à Kempis, 1380-1471. x. 95.)-See Imitation of Christ, Book i., ch. xix. pression is of still greater antiquity: the Chronicle of Battle Abbey, page 27 (Lower's But the extranslation), and in Piers Ploughman's Vision, it appears in line 13,994. Or if antiquity of sentiment forms part of our pursuit, see Proverbs xvi. 9, "A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps." O. B. B. 224.)-From a charter of James IV., 14th August, THE SURNAME ALLISON: ELLISON (4th S. x. 1490, dated at Glasgow, in favour of George Maxwell of Garnsalloch, in Lower Nithsdale, I have made the following note of the names of witnesses in a form which appears to me not unlikely to show the original of this name of Allison. The names of the witnesses are Geo. Sam. et Joan. Allanisoune." May not this, therefore, be the origin, viz. "Son of Allan"? Roberto Allanisoune, C. T. RAMAGE. 66 ALLITERATION (4th S. x. 126, 208, 281.)--For another example of sigmatismus, allow me to refer to the formula ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε, occurring in at least six passages of the New Victoria. Patents and Patentees. Vol. V. Inderes for the Year 1870. By W. H. Archer. (Melbourne, Ferres; London, Trübner & Co.) Mr. W. H. Hart, F.S.A., purposes issuing next month the first part of an Index Expurgatorius Anglicanus, or a descriptive catalogue of the principal books printed or burnt by the common hangman, or censured, or for published in England which have been suppressed, or which the authors, printers, or publishers have been prosecuted. In consequence of a domestic bereavement, Lord Shaftesbury will be unable to preside at the complimentary dinner to Mr. Thoms. The chair will be taken by Lord Stanhope. BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to the gentlemen by whom they are required, whose names and addresses are given for that purpose: DURANDUS' RATIONAL MASKELL'S ANCIENT LITURGIES, MASKELL'S MONUMENTA LITURGICA. Wanted by the Principal of St. Bees College, St. Bees, Notices to Correspondents. THE Registrar-General of Victoria has compiled three useful Indexes from the specifications lodged in the Patent Office attached to the Registrar-General's Depart- FREEMAN'S PRINCIPLES OF DIVINE SERVICE. ment, Melbourne. The list of patents shows the intellectual activity of our thinking and aspiring men at the Antipodes. Many of the patents applied for aim at the most useful ends. Others are suggestive. Improvements in collapsable casks" would be a great boon to housekeepers; but an "instrument for opening cans' seems less desirable. We do not understand the merits OUR CORRESPONDENTS will, we trust, excuse our sugof a "parabyte scoop," to the creating of which one gesting to them, both for their sakes as well as our own—” gentleman has directed his energies. We think Mr. Lever, I. That they should write clearly and distinctly—and on in his proposals for manufacturing sugar from beetroot, one side of the paper only-more especially proper names has been anticipated by Mr. Baruchsen of Liverpool, and and words and phrases of which an explanation may be various French manufacturers. We observe that a bar-required. We cannot undertake to puzzle out what a Corrister of Sydney has invented a "portable hammer respondent does not think worth the trouble of writing battery." It is not an uncommon instrument for a plainly. barrister to invent. Every English barrister, worth anything, makes his own, carries it with him to the Assizes, and uses it with tremendous effect. Estimates of the English Kings. 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CONTENTS. - N° 252. the publicke doth appeare publiquely rather by strangers For first knowe, by power of his Lordshipps warden- NOTES:-Notes by Sir James Bagg on the Parliament of REPLIES:-Picture of Shakspeare's Marriage, 334-Oliver Notes on Books, &c. Notes. Areopagitica," "Corrington acknowledging to me that Mansfeild was made by the Earle of Pembrooke, sometyme after that, he reports unto me that he was sent for by the said Lord unto the Countess of Bedford's house, where his Lordfeild, and by his Lordshipp required to deny (if ever shipp told him. he was questioned for placinge of Manshe were demaunded it) that his Lordshipp either wryt for Mansfeild or placed him, all which Corrington at his owne lodginge acquainted me, with this much more, that he never told man of it but me, and if I had acquainted your Grace therewith, by which meanes his Lordshipp of Pembrooke was questioned, he were undone. "At this tyme of confference my Lord Cromewell came to enquyre for me, and found me at Currington's chamber, which tooke us of from further discourse. "Before the wrytts (that sommons the Parl[ia]ment) were oute, it shalbe made appeare that Currington endeavored to get places, and a letter was directed to him from Mr. Thorrougood in the name of the Earl of Pembrooke for his placinge of Sir Francis Stuart, Sir Robert Mansfeild, Sir Elipsias Crewe, and Mr. William NOTES BY SIR JAMES BAGG ON THE PARLIA- Murrye, and one in name more, for five I am sure they MENT OF 1626. was were in nomber. was chosen; who beinge elected for the towne of Darby, Thorrowgood his Lordshipp secretarie (as I have hard) did relinquishe that, and Turner admytted. "Further be pleased to knowe that Sir James Fullerin goverment there makes me conceive he was made by ton is Burgess for Porchmouth, his Lordshipps power him. All in Cornewall, and made by Stuart is for Liskard, Mansfeild for for Fowey, Currington. Amongst the Conway Papers which came into Lostwithiell, Murrey "You maye be pleased to take notice, that Doctor the Record Office after the early volumes of Mr. Elipsias Crew for Kellington. Bruce's Calendar were printed, and which are now to be found amongst the Addenda as yet uncalen-Turner is for Shaftsburie, a place of which Mr. dared, is the following letter, which is curious in so many ways that it will, I think, be acceptable to readers of "N. & Q." Unfortunately, the passage referring to Eliot is very much torn, and some of it looks as if, even when the paper entire, it had been left in an unintelligible shape, a few words having been written and then only partially corrected. But the story told is, on the whole, comprehensible, and it gives us the fact that Eliot's application to Pembroke, duly chronicled by Mr. Forster (Sir J. Eliot, i. 279, ed. 1872), was successful as far as Pembroke was concerned. The letter is undated, but was certainly written not long after March 3, 1626, the true date of the death of the first Earl of Devonshire of the CavenSAMUEL R. GARDINER. dish family. "SIR,-Takinge the end of Oxfords Parliament and the begininge of this into consideracion, you shall fynde that this hath for begininge the end of that, malitiously withoute cause intendinge your ruine, a waye to bringe you to which was layd (and that in your faithfull servants oppinion) thus. "The Earle of Pembrooke trustinge to the assent of "I observe that Sir James Fullerton speakes nothinge wief is Currington's wief her neece, and to that house * Rudyard. + Succeeded his father as Earl of Devonshire, March Lord Cavendish 3, 1625, according to Collins, Nicholas, and other Peerages. But surely this is an error. here referred to was a Member of the House of Commons in 1625, was re-elected in 1626, and is here spoken Christian, sister of the Lord Cavendish who had of as if he had been recently elevated to the Peerage. just become 2nd Earl of Devonshire. |