lord, that might receive an injury in the afraid to repeat what he had said; it was, public opinion, if after an order of the that the government of the corporation House a few peers only should attend as a

was in the hands of improper persons; House, which must have been the case at that is to say, in the hands of country this season of the year, when the major gentlemen, when it should be in those of part of them would be in the country. traders : the aldermen were now not

Col. Barré said the House had not been traders but politicians : he had in his eye taken unawares when the motion was made a very worthy gentleman, of very great for lord Chatham's interment at the public landed property in the country, who from expence : the melancholy event which had that very circumstance he pronounced to brought on that motion was previously be unfit for the office of an alderman, known by the House. The funeral pomp though in every other respect an amiable which the right hon. gentleman affected character: numbers of others he could to call an empty vain parade, would be point out in the same predicament, who, productive of a salutary effect, as it would however respectable by their birth, conshew the enemies of this country that the nections and fortune, were not, in his opinational spirit, in - some measure created nion, the less disqualified for a magistracy and always cherished by lord Chatham, in the city. When he had expressed his was not extinct, but might still make the disapprobation of a public funeral for lord country victorious over all her foes. The Chatham, he was far from having the least astonishing disinterestedness of the man disrespect for his memory: he would allow required every mark of grateful remem. with every gentleman, that he had the brance which a generous people could be cleanest of hands, the clearest of heads, stow; though he had passed through the the most upright of intentions, and the highest employments of the empire, though most hovest of hearts; but he was still of he had enjoyed the most lucrative places opinion that a monument would be a more of the nation, though he had been in pos lasting honour than a funeral; and that session of the secrets of the state, still he the liberal manner in which the House had had had virtue enough to prefer the public that day provided for his descendants, good to his own personal interest, and de- would be a more distinguished mark of livered up the posts he had filled with national regard than the most pompaus clean hands, and retired to the embraces funeral rites could possibly be. As to the of a pinching, but to him a glorious po- seeming charge brought against himself verty. When the right hon. gentleman by the great encomiums nationally paid to should have resigned all his places, after the memory of lord Chatham for haring displaying as much disinterestedness while retired with clea hands, he -was un. he possessed them as the roble earl, whose conscious of having deserved the insinua. virtues were then the theme of panegyric, tion: the possession of the secrets of state he himself would move for similar honours alluded, he supposed, to Change-alley; he to be paid to his memory. At this cri- was not afraid to say, that he bid defiance tical situation of affairs, it was to the last to any man who could bring a charge degree impolitic to hold forth any lan- against him of having had any dealings in guage to the public which might tend to the Alley; or having purchased a single destroy that unaniınity which was at this guinea's worth in the stocks ever since he juncture the only stay, the only hope, of became paymaster-general: if any man our political salvation. To say that the could accuse him of any thing unbecompoor, the low, the contemptible, were at ing his public character in the discharge of the head of affairs, could not but give dis- his office, he desired him to stand forth, gust to those respectable characters, in and if he could prove his accusation, be whose hands the government of the city would most willingly resign his office: but

he was sure no such charge could be made Mr. Rigby said, at the same time that against him ; and however disagreeable it he did not wish that sentiments which was to his delicacy to pronounce his own were none of his should go out under his panegyric, yet, bold from conscious innoname into the world, declared himself un- cence, he would not hesitate to say, that daunted, though such a formidable phalanx | he possessed as honest and upright a heart, was drawn up against him: he denied that and had as clean hands as any man who he had insinuated, that the government of heard him. the city was in the hands of the low, Mr. Burke joined with those who wished poor, and the contemptible: he was not that lord Chatham's remains might be

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buried in St. Paul's: that spacious cathe- | Non-contents 16; and proxies being called dral was particularly calculated for monu- for, the proxies for the original motion ments; it was now a mere desart, while were 6, against it 4 ; so that the numbers Westminster-abbey was over crowded. for the attendance of the House of Lords He dwelt much upon the virtues of the on the funeral of William earl of Chatham, noble lord; and though he knew that were 19, Non-contents 20, proxies inthere had been some shades in his cha- cluded. racter, for it was in some de ee impossible to be in nature a great character with- June 2. The order of the day being out faults, yet they were so brightened by read for the third reading of the Bill, inthe resplendent glory of his virtues, that titled, “ An Act for settling and securing they were to him now, since his death, a certain annuity on the earl of Chatham, perfectly invisible. He did not agree and the heirs of the body of the late Wilwith the right bon. gentleman that politi- liam Pitt earl of Chatham, to whom the cians were unfit for the government of earldom of Chatham shall descend, in conthe city: the city politicians had before sideration of the eminent services performnow saved the city; and it was to the ed by the said late earl to his Majesty and firmness of their politics that the House the public,” owed their existence; that a sheriff, a The Duke of Chandos said, he was comprivilege singular in its kind, could appear pelled, by his duty as a member of that at their bar; or indeed that there had House, and from a regard to his country, been any parliamentary bar for them to to oppose the passing of the Bill. His obappear at. The petition, he declared, was jection would not be direct against the worded in a manner which did the com- principle of providing for the family of the posers of it no less honour for the patriotic deceased earl, but against the duration of and respectful sentiments it breathed, than the provision. The ground of objection for the elegance and beauty of the stile in was, the inability of this country to inwhich it was written. As to the place of crease the additional burthens under which the earl's interment, he hoped the House it now laboured; the immense national would not interfere, and rob his family of debt; the great interest paid to the public a right of which it were a species of sa- annuitants; the prospect, nay almost cercrilege to deprive them—that of deposit- tainty, of a foreign war; all these furnish ing, where they should think fit the re-ed the strongest incentive to public economains of this great ancestor, the pride my: This was not a time to scatter the and boast of their family, and the source national treasure with a profuse or careof future emulation to glorious deeds, less hand. If the Bill had made a provisuch as his example might prompt them to sion for the present noble earl and his de

The Petition was ordered to lie on the scendants, he should not, probably, have table.

opposed it; but it was framed so as to give

the family a perpetuity of 4,0001. per ann. May 26. The House agreed to present Grants in perpetuity were taxes in perpeanother Address to the King, requesting tuity on the subject, and ought, therefore, his Majesty to give orders, that 20,0001. to be cautiously and rarely ratified by parbe issued, for the payment of the debts of liament. The people were already taxed the late earl of Chatham ; and to assure very heavily, and, from the present situahis Majesty, that the House would make tion of public affairs, the exigencies of the good the same. The request was complied state might make it necessary to impose with.

additional burthens; on which special con

sideration, it behoved their lordships, as Debate in the Lords on the Chatham An- the guardians of the state and nation, to nuity Bill.] May 13. The earl of Shel- permit no new tax to be imposed, unless burne, after a short preface, moved, That warranted by evident necessity. the flouse do attend the funeral of the late He disapproved of the Bill on another William earl of Chatham, whatever day account, that of precedent; as it would his Majesty shall appoint. Lord Dudley open a door for applications of a similar moved, that the debate be adjourned till nature, from men in high stations; from to-morrow, and the question being put, men greedy of emolument, who would be the Contents were 16, Non-contents, 15. ready at all times not to rate their services The main question put by lord Shelburne at their true value, or their rewards acbeing now put, the Contents were 16, cording to the abilities of the state, but to [VOL, XIX. ]


their own inordinate desires, and the means for the time being, was the best, or rather of gratifying them; or, having the art of only judge, of the deserts of the servants rendering themselves popular, without per of the public: and to hint to parliament, haps a tythe of the deceased earl's merit, that the Bill was far from being an acceptmight, in an unguarded moment, procure able present at the Queen's house. similar grants, till the load of taxes so The Earl of Abingdon. I rise, my lords, created would become insupportable. His to express my concern for the opposition grace said, that if the rule of rewarding that has been given to this Bill : an oppomen in perpetuity was to prevail, without sition not only ill-founded in itself, but, I disparaging the services of the deceased fear, is not much to the honour of this earl, there would be found several persons House. I say, my lords, that this opposi. now living of equal pretensions. He could tion is ill-founded; for after the Commons, name more than one man in that House-- who are the purse-keepers of the nation, one of them, a noble lord, by whose valour have thought fit unanimously to apply the and skill in his profession, it was probable, public money to this service, opposition on their lordships were in a capacity to deli- this ground comes with a very ill grace berate and attend on the present occasion from us. But what is the reason given for (lord Hawke.) The commander of our the opposition? It is said, that the nation forces, during the late war in Germany, is overloaded with debt, and cannot bear had, besides, performed very signal servi- the expence. Indeed, my lords, this is a ces for this country; yet neither of those weighty reason, if it were better applied. gallant commanders had annuities settled Look into the papers now upon your table, upon them in perpetuity. He was not you will there find millions that have been averse to the principles of the Bill, and squandered away. Look into your Jouronly objected to the manner and the time, nals, and you will find those very squanthe granting a perpetual rent charge on derers protected, by the dead majorities of the eve of a bloody and expensive war: this House, even from censure. And, the first was an objection he would not shall we turn our eyes from a vicious progive up; and if a perpetuity was insisted fusion, and look with economy upon a viron, he should feel himself obliged to give tuous application of the public money? the Bill a direct negative, If, therefore, No, my lords, let us not by such a contrast the present Bill should pass, the public fi- of conduct, expose ourselves to so much nances must be loaded with additional bur- censure. Sorry am I to find a greater thens, which it was by no means in a state spirit of liberality among the Commons to support; or injustice must be done to than is to be found among the Lords : that those of equal merit, but not so high in what the Commons have done upon a parliamentary favour. If, indeed, the re- great scale, we would confine within a commendation had originated with the so- lesser circle; although, too, my lords, the vereign, it would have come properly, be- object of their bounty is one of the memcause it might be properly restrained. By bers of our own body. I trust, therefore, this reservation, his Majesty would have it that this motion will be withdrawn; that it his power to reward proper objects, and may not be said, that whilst we are giving keep the only precedent existing, that of pensions, titles, and preferments to those the great duke of Marlborough, within its who deserve the axe or the halter, we are proper limitations. His grace made seve-withholding the reward of services from ral other observations, all which went sub- others, who have a claim upon the public stantially to the following several points: to to it. put a negative to the Bill, for he proposed The Duke of Richmond agreed with the no amendment; to suggest the impropriety noble earl entirely on his ideas respecting of making it perpetual, while his arguments public economy. He was perfectly satiswere against the Bill entirely: to shew that fied there never was a time when enquiries the nation was not equal to make it perpe- into the expenditure of public money was tual, while he seemed to wish that the pro- become more necessary; because there vision might be made as long as the title of never was a period at which public profuChatham continued in the descendants of sion was so much countenanced ; nor at the living earl; to assert, that lords Hawke, which this country called for a more strict Amherst, prince Ferdinand of Brunswick, frugality. He thought, however, that at and some others, bad performed as great the conclusion of a session was no proper services for this country as the late earl of time to set about a reformation. Several Chatham; that the King on the throne, endeavours had been made relative to this

subject, but they were all strangled in mark of his sovereign's bounty, by being their birth, by the previous question. If called into a very bigh post, attended with the noble duke was nevertheless serious in great emoluments[Lord Privy Seal], when his opinions, and meant to abolish sipecure it was well known that his lordship's explaces; to strike off additional salaries, &c. treme bad state of health rendered him he was very willing to co-operate in that very incapable of assisting in his Majesbusiness with him, and to give him every ty's councils. Those, he contended, were assistance in his power; but not on the fully adequate to his services. The only present occasion, when their lordships were precedent was that of the duke of Marldebating upon making a provision for the borough. The duke's abilities as a statesfamily of a man who had rendered such man and a general were conspicuous. He signal services to this nation. Such in- was appointed ambassador to negociate stances of national gratitude were neces and settle the terms of the Grand Alliance; şary; and though he did not coincide in which, in its progress, afterwards broke the opinion, at all times, with the deceased power of France, and set limits to the amearl, he could not but consider him as a bition of Louis 14. Yet when, by his great man, and a public character, whose great talents for negociation, he had efservices were well deserving that tribute to fected so desirable an event, as bringing his memory, the present Bill was about to Holland and the German powers into the pay. He perfectly agreed with the noble alliance, the queen having settled 5,0001. earl, who spoke last, that the present set of per annum during her own life, sent a ministers rather merited the axe or halter, message to the Commons to make it perthan the honours and rewards which had petual. After a full consideration of the been so profusely lavished upon them; and message, the Commons refused to 'com yet, what they possessed already was not ply; and it was not till four years afterdeemed sufficient : for one of them (lord wards, after repeated victories, and rendere North)he understood, was shortly to be ap- ing his name celebrated in all parts of Eu. pointed to a sinecure place of 5,0001. a year, rope, and a terror to France, that parliathat of the Wardenship of the Cinque Ports. ment made the queen's grant perpetual. Was the noble duke, who opposed the None of their lordships had a füller sense Bill, serious? If he was, why not promote of the services of the deceased earl than he an enquiry into sinecure places, and there had; but he presumed to say, that the by.render an essential piece of service to precedent of the conduct of parliament, his country, by endeavouring to procure a respecting the duke of Marlborough, was total abolition of them? This would shew, a good ground on the present occasion, that the noble duke did not mean to use against establishing a new precedent, the argument of public economy and pub- which might, in times to come, be produclic inability, only one way; that his oppo- tive of great inconvenience, and mischief. sition was to things, not persons; that he But though every other objection against was solely actuated by public motives, not the Bill were done away, the time was toprivate considerations : in short, to testify, tally improper, for several reasons. He that as he knew what faction was capable heartily agreed, that this was not a proper of doing, he was resolved to prevent its time to be lavish of the public money, effects, without any regard to persons or when we had the most urgent calls for it ; parties.

when the strictest æconomy ought to be The Lord Chancellor opposed the prin- observed throughout every department of ciple as well as provisions of the Bill; and the state ; and that so great a sum as did not approve of making it either a tem- 4,000l. per ann. was to be given, not to porary or perpetual provision. He did not the person who had performed the serwish to take off from the services of the vices, but to his family, and that at the deceased earl; they had been fully ac- end of 16 years. This with me, said his knowledged by his sovereign, and amply lordship, is a circumstance which operates provided for. 'The noble earl, when he most powerfully against the Bill; why not first retired from office, had a pension of make this provision in his life-time? The 3,000l. per annum settled on him during truth is, such an' expectation did not his own life, and that of his lady and eldest exist ; nor, were it made, would it pro. son : a provision, let him be permitted to bably have succeeded: the answer would say, fully equal to the services performed have been, The noble lord is already proby the deceased earl. In a few years af- vided for; he has acknowledged his being terwards, bis lordship received a further contented with what his sovereign has al

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ready done for him; and, since that pe- | wanted to be reminded of them, he could riod, except in the instance alluded to, he telltheir lordships, from the extremest east, has not been in a situation to serve his where the sun rose, to the setting of that country, nor, of course, to seek further glorious luminary in the western horizon ; reward, on the ground of subsequent in every quarter of the globe to the earth's merit. - He said he never could agree, that remotest bounds, where the arms of Brithe Lords, by either amending or rejecting tain were borne triumphant; where opea money Bill, thereby invaded the province rations by sea or land were invariably acof the other House; for he was satisfied, companied by conquest, by reputation, that their Jordships were as much trustees extension of commerce, and all the adfor the people, as the Commons: they vantages and glories united, which have at were, besides, either individually, or col- former periods been separately the effects lectively, materially interested, both as of successful war, or of the enjoyment of contributors and as a legislative body. He the blessings of peace; the East Indies, did not see on what foundation their lord- Africa, the West Indies, North America, ships could with justice pass the present the coast and territories of our enemies in Bill, while a brave admiral, one of their Europe ; all bear testimony to the serown body (lord Hawke) whose naval ser vices of the noble earl, whose merit had vices could not be too highly extolled ; | been endeavoured that day to be thrown and a most able officer at the head of the so much into the shade. His lordship army last war (prince Ferdinand) went was proceeding with great energy, when unnoticed and unrewarded, in the manner he was interrupted from the woolsack, the now proposed. As to the plea, that the Lord Chancellor moving to have the ComCommons had passed the Bill

, and that his mons' Journals of 1702 and 1706 read; in Majesty assented, he wished their lordships proof of his assertions, respecting the to consider, that the matterwas first agitated conduct of parliament towards the duke of in the other House, of a sudden and at mid- Marlborough confirmed. This interrupnight; that the address to the King was of tion was looked upon as disorderly by the course moved hastily, and as hastily car. House ; and the noble lord was desired to ried. His Majesty, thus applied to, was proceed in his speech. in a great measure obliged to comply. His lordship observed, that according to He spoke likewise very strongly against what had been thrown out by the noble the mode in which the matter originated. duke who spoke first, the alteration proHe insisted, it was out of the natural posed by his grace would operate as an course; it ought to have come from the entail, and could not go further than the

alone ; and that circumstance son of the present noble ear!; he wished weighed sufficiently with him to reject the therefore to know from bis grace, whether Bill.-Before he concluded, he declared, that was what he meant? [Told it was. ] he saw no reason for the nation to despond His lordship then went on. On the first because the earl of Chatham was no more. ground, that of inability; he said the anThere still remained as firm well-wishers nuity was made chargeable on the Aggreto their country, and as capable of doing gate Fund, which could continue no longer it essential service, as the noble earl. than this country remained in a state of prosWhenever danger threatened, English- perity, it being the residue of the produce of men naturally felt a proper spirit to de- all the taxes, after the interest was paid to fend their country, and attack their ene- the public creditors. While, therefore, that mies. That spirit was now shewing itself fund, that depended on the sources of in every corner of the island.

wealth and commerce, which the noble Lord Camden said, he was sorry to hear earl had been so successful in promoting any comparisons made between the ser- and extending, continued to have a residue vices of the noble earl and those of any after discharging the prior demands on it; other eminent characters, either living or the inability of paying the annuity could dead. The noble duke who spoke first, not exist. If ever that fatal period should and the learned lord on the woolsack, had arrive, when the fund was unequal, then both held forth in the highest strains of most certainly the provision must cease, panegyric on the memory of the late duke and the descendants of the noble eari of Marlborough; and 'very deservedly. suffer in the general wreck and ruin of They had dwelt on the scenes of his vic- their country. tories, and in their zeal seemed to forget The learned lord who spoke last, had those of the deceased earl; but if they laid the chief stress of his argument, upon


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