was the motive also of associating the inter- Chaldee Manuscript. From a second edition the verses run : How hard when those who do not wish to lend, thus lose their books; Who call and take some favourite tome, but never read it through; BOOK ABOUT PIRATES.-I have been asked to identify a small book (5 by 3 in.) containing biographies of pirates. The titlepage is lost, and the only clue left is the name of the printer at the bottom of the last page: T. Johnson, 92 Dale Street, Liverpool." About a dozen of the biographies are probably based on Capt. Johnson's well-known General History of I, the Pyrates' (5th edition, 1735), but some of the naval heroes flourished in more recent times, such as, e.g., Benito de Soto (hanged at Gibraltar, 1830) and Charles Gibbs and Thomas J. Wansley (Bellevue Prison, New York, 1831). The book was probably published in the thirties. Can any kind reader help me ? L. L. K. 'POCAHONTAS,' A POEM.-Who was the author of the poem Pocahontas' ? I. S. EDMONSTONE OF NEWTON.-I shall be glad if any of your readers can send me particulars regarding James Edmonstone of Newton, who was born in 1627, and succeeded to Newton in 1661. He was the son of William Edmonstone, minister of Kilmadock, the other children being Archibald, Margaret, Nancy, and Katherine. I should like particularly to know the name of James Edmonstone's wife, and the fate of his brother and sisters. F. A. JOHNSTON. 56 Queen's Gate, S.W. 'BLACKWOOD' AND THE CHALDEE MANUSCRIPT.-I take the following from Blackwood for April, 1917, p. 434, col. 2 : Thus they complete their set at home by making one at you. of my 'Spenser quite bereft last winter, Of "Lamb" I've but a quarter left, nor could And then I saw my "Crabbe" at last, like Hamlet, CHARLES BRAndon, Duke OF SUFFOLK: HIS WIVES.-Have the first two wives of Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, ever been clearly identified? He is supposed to have married aunt and niece, basing his plea for divorce on this ground among others. Anne Brown was one of the ladies to Queen Elizabeth (who died 1503). She was contracted to Brandon, 1505; married after 1508; died 1512, leaving two daughters. She was called the third daughter of Sir Anthony Brown, Governor of Calais, by the Lady Lucy Neville, whose sister Margaret, widow of Sir John Mortimer, Brandon married in 1506, and divorced in 1507. But Lady Lucy's first husband, Sir Thomas Fitzwilliam of Aldwark, died in 1495 only, as can be seen on her monument at Tickhill; therefore it is almost impossible that her daughter by her second husband, Sir Anthony Brown, can have been old enough "The first number of the Magazine is still to be the Anne Brown who became Lady memorable for the Chaldee Manuscript, an Brandon; and if she were a daughter by a elaborate jest, hit upon by a happy accident-former marriage, the Lady Margaret Mora jest, moreover, which set all Edinburgh by the timer cannot have been her aunt. This lady ears, and ensured the success of the venture... the point was so sharp that it pierced deep into the heart of Edinburgh society. One subject only was in all minds, upon all tongues-the is represented as of mature age, and her husband was killed at the battle of Bosworth, 1485. As she was the fourth daughter of John Neville, Marquess of Montacute (married 1457, killed 1471), she cannot have been much more than 40 at her second marriage with Brandon. The identity of these two ladies seems extremely uncertain, but perhaps some more definite information. has now been discovered. M. T. F. 'MR. HOWARD,' PORTRAIT BY G. H. HARLOW.-Can any reader tell me who was the Mr. Howard whose portrait was painted by G. H. Harlow and engraved in mezzotint by W. Say? He is seated in an armchair, holding a piece of paper with both hands. The portrait is full length. The mezzotint is 22 in. by 17 in. W. H. QUARRELL. WANTAGE, BERKS: INN CALLED THE PRICE'S ARMS.-I am anxious to locate an inn at Wantage, Berkshire, formerly situated on the "Prior's Hold estate, in 1784 belonging to John Price, Esq., of "The Ham," Wantage, High Sheriff of Berks in 1752. The inn bore his arms as its sign, and is said to have been a stopping-place of some interest in the coaching days. Upon what road was it situated, and when was it demolished? Any information will be gratefully received. LEONARD C. PRICE. seems to be connected with such a prospective event in the Pretender's life. The young princess is represented standing before the door of a small circular temple; two columns of its peristyle bear medallions of her ancestors-Henry IV., Lewis XIII., Lewis XIV., and Lewis XV.; and her personal resemblance with the last of the kings is emphasized by the engraver. To the same temple is going the young prince, led by a female figure who is revealed to be the Queen of France by her fleur-delised crown and mantle. A child near the Queen has a double shield bearing (1) France, (2) quarterings of alliances, legible with difficulty, one of them seeming to be Medicis, for Henry IV.'s wife, I suppose. I do not think it necessary to describe the symbolical Justice, War, Arts, Religion, Love, and the figures surrounding the group above: Truth, lying Error and Discord; they are too well known in subjects of that period. With respect to the figure supposed to be the Young Pretender, nothing is really convincing as to his identity; he is dressed as a Roman warrior, but the head seems to have been traced after a portrait. A child before him carries a laurel branch and a sceptre. In the background a crowd applauds. It should be added that the Queen's head is certainly intended to be a portrait, too, and reminds one forcibly of Mary Leczinska. Had not she some special interest in the Young Pretender, he being the son of a Polish woman? PIERRE TURPIN. 44 Heath Terrace, Leamington Spa. AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.1. Who wrote the following lines, and where do they appear? His taste exact for faultless fact 2. Calderon is stated to have said that "the greatest sin that man commits is being born." Is this correct? If so, where does he use the words? F. R. CAVE. Folly Gate, Okehampton, Devon. 3. "Too wise to err, too good to be unkind ". as applied to God. I have known this quotation all my life. I find it used in the first verse of a poem on Submission,' by G. B. W., in The Baptist Reporter for April, 1843, as follows: My God! Thou art too wise to err, Is this its origin? JOHN T. PAGE. "Rev. John East [Mr. Gurney Benham, in Cassell's Book of Quotations,' revised edition, 1912, attributes the Century)," but cites nothing in support of the expression to the (19th authorship. SOME years ago I investigated the date of Flower's coming into the kingdom, with a view of ascertaining whether he could be definitely associated with the Fairford glass. I also collected a good deal of information as to the Flemish colony of glaziers and glasspainters established in Southwark about this period. I agree with H. C. that, for the present, Mr. Lethaby's dates must not be taken into account. He appears to have confused the period covered by some Exchequer T.R. accounts with the actual dates of the pay ments to Flower. These are as follows: an 26 June, 21 Henry VII. [1506]. Item, to Barnard Flowre the Kings glasier vpon indent towards the glasing of the Chauncell of the King's College at Cambrige, xxx P. 72. 29 Sept., 22 Henry VII. [1506]. "Barnarde Flore the Kings glasier half yeeres fee for kepinge of certen of the Kings castells & manors in Rep'ac'on, xij "."-P. 101. 28 March, 22 Henry VII. [1507], similar entry, -P. 144. Also on 30 Sept., 23 Henry VII. [1557]; 31 March, 23 Henry VII. [1508]; 31 March, 24 Henry VII. [1509]. Thus Flower was in the service of the Crown early in 1505. Can we prove an earlier date? Unfortunately, his patent of appointment as King's glazier is not recorded on the Rolls, and it is possible that he never was technically so appointed. It is, however, known that much of the glazing executed in England immediately prior to 1505 is either Flemish work or shows signs of Flemish influence. The portrait of Prince Arthur in Great Malvern Priory was the gift of Henry VII. in 1501-2 (Westlake, iii. p. 38 n.); while the corresponding portrait in St. Margaret's, Westminster, is known to be Flemish work. Did not these portraits emanate from the same atelier? and if so, were they not both executed at Dort in Flanders? The following document throws some light upon the provenance of English glass at a later period, Letters and Papers Henry VIII., vol. 162, folio 131. [The Glaziers' Petition to Cromwell, c. 1537 ?] Mekely besechithe your honorable Lordeshipe we your pore suppliantts and contynewall oratoures the felishipe and fremen of the crafte of Glasyers crafte to be so good Lorde vnto vs your pore Suppliantts that we may haue the Kyngs lawes to procede agaynst one peter Nicholson the Glasier a stranger whiche hath offendide the Kyngs Acte made by our Sou'eigne Lorde the Kyng and all his lordes both spirituall and temp'rall enactyde by his sou'eignes parlyainente and according vnto that we your saide suppliantts humblie besechithe your grace that the Kings lawes may procede vpon hym by your Lordeshipes favoure I truste that your Lordeshipe will lete vs haue the Kyngs Lawes and in where to we shall stande and in this we shall this that we may haue yor Gracyous andswere enfourme your Lordeshipe the trewithe That is that they [sic] sayd peter Nicholson dothe nat onely kepe theise five seru'nts [servants] straungers to doo onely your Lordeshipes worke alone but he takith but he takith [sic] allmens worke that he may gett besydes Whereby that he offendithe the Acte and yet more ou' finoreover] that the saide peter Nicholson doth nat onely sett theise men aworke here but he setts more men aworke beyeonde the see and bryngithe his glasse reddy wrought ou' [over] in to Englande whereby that our Englisshe men cannat be sett in worke and more ou' the Kyngs Grace loses his custome and in this excepte that your honorable Lordshipe be good vnto vs beyng the Kyngs pore Subiectts that we may haue the Kyngs Lawes to procede orells theise straungers will vtterly vndoo vs and In this our Grevouse comepleynte and it will please your Lordeshipe to shewe your Gracyous fauour vuto vs the Kyngs lovyng subiectts to se anorder in this and to reforme it and your Lordeshipe byndith vs to be yo' trewe beademen and we shall praye for your longe contynewaunce in hellth and high p'seruacyon tothe pleasure of God [Endorsed] 66 The suplica c'on of the crafte of Glasiers. The Act referred to here is not that of 1 Ric. III. c. 12, prohibiting the importation of painted glasses," but the Statute of Aliens referred to by H. C. The tradition of the Fairford glass probably rests upon some action taken or proposed to be taken under the former Act. Obviously this Act was no longer regarded as being in force. It will be seen that the English glaziers tacitly admit the superiority of the foreign workmanship, and they lay stress upon the number of workmen employed by Nicholson. Many of the names of his workmen are preserved in an action in the Star Chamber which was first brought to light by Mr. Page in his valuable introduction to the Huguenot in Society's Letters of Denization, 1509-1603.' This is the opinion of the last editors of I have very full abstracts of these documents, Hutchins's Dorset' (3rd edition); but, which, if not too lengthy, I should be glad however this may be, I am now able to to reproduce in these columns. In my bring some further evidence (and that of opinion, however, they do not support Mr. quite a modern character) to hear upon the Page's description of the Flemish colony as authenticity of the payment of the alleged glassmakers. The whole point of the customary fine. quarrel between the two parties is obscured Some little time after my reply appeared if we lose sight of the fact that they were 'N. & Q.' I happened to meet the Rev. rival craftsmen. Flower, we know from Canon J. C. M. Mansel-Pleydell, late Vicar T.R. Misc., vol. 236, 7 Hen. VIII, Dec., of Sturminster Newton, Dorset, and knowing bought large quantities of Norman or white that he was a son of a late owner of the glass and I believe that his coloured glass Whatcombe estate, which comprised the was Rhenish," i.c., Lorraine glass It Clenston property, the subject of the locus would be possible to compile from the above-in quo, I asked him if he could give me any mentioned documents and other sources a information relative to MISS CRAIG's inquiry, fairly complete list of the foreign glaziers in and showed him the articles that had London of this period, and a less complete appeared in N. & Q. on the subject. list of the native workmen for the same Thereupon he very kindly went into the period. If any reader of N. &Q has matter, so far as it could be gathered from leisure for the task, I shall be happy to family papers to which he had access, and place my material at his disposal. gave me permission to make what use I pleased of such information as he was able to give me. He referred me, of course, to the account given by Coker which formed the basis of what is related in Hutchins, and stated that Hutchins's account of the story is the one generally accepted in the family. He writes: Clare, Sevenoaks. E. WYNDHAM HULME. WHITE HART SILVER, DORSET. (12 S. iii. 30, 97.) MAY I be allowed to supplement what I said on this subject at the latter reference? In answering MISS CRAIG'S question as to whether the fine of "White Hart Silver," as imposed by Henry III. on certain estates in Dorset, was still paid into the Exchequer, and also her request for any general in formation on the subject, I gave the story as recorded in Coker's Survey of Dorsetshire' and Hutchins's History of Dorset.' But I was then rather of opinion that the whole story was of a somewhat legendary character, and doubted whether any definite information on the subject would be forthcoming, though, at the same time, I suggested that inquiries might be made in the proper quarters. These inquiries do not seem to have been made, or, at all events, no result has been recorded in N. & Q' 6 I note, however, that MR. BAYLEY, following on my reply, gives (p. 98) an extract from F. R. Heath's Dorset' ("The Little Guides"), p. 84, in which "Faller vouches for the payment of White Hart Silver, having in his own person made the payment, although he quaintly adds, he never tasted the venison,' so the custom survived to the days of the Great Rebellion. The old legend apart from this, i.c., as regards the origin of the payment, lacks confirmatory evidence, for both the Pipe Rolls and other official records and documents are silent on the subject." "I am afraid I have nothing more to go upon, except that I have often heard my father talk of it as the correct traditional story in the family. He also told me that there was a charge upon the estatet (I think about 11. 10s. per ann.) until he accepted an offer to commute the annual payment by a final sum." It is believed that this occurred about the year 1880. Canon Mansel-Pleydell also said that he had looked very carefully through all the family papers in his possession, hoping to como across some record to throw light upon the story, but without success. In a subsequent letter he said : "I enclose you notes of Sir J. De la Lynde. I am afraid they tell no more than you know already. But I am certainly correct as to what my father told me about payments to the Exchequer. I wonder whether we could obtain information from the Exchequer Office. It might be worth trying." At the same time he sent me extracts from the pedigrees showing how the De la Lynde property came to the Mortons and Pleydells; *The late Mr. J. C. Mansel-Pleydell of What-. combe, co. Dorset, one of the founders and first President of the still flourishing Dorset Natural History and Antiquarian Field Club, and author of several well-known works upon Dorset flora and fauna. † Winterborne Clenston, part of the What combe property. but as this is all fairly set out in the pedigrees of these families in Hutchins, and of the closely allied families of Clavell and Mansel there published, I will not take up space in going over it again here. Acting upon this suggestion, I recently went to the Public Record Office, the Treasury Office, and to the Office of Woods and Forests-to each of which I was referred in turn-where my inquiries were courteously attended to by the various officials. But inasmuch as the scanty nature of the materials I was able to adduce was not considered to afford the necessary data upon which a search could be made with any reasonable prospect of success, it would seem that in the absence of further evidence derived from family documents any advance in this matter is not likely to be achieved. Canon Mansel-Pleydell has, however, very kindly promised to make further researches amongst the family papers and to consult the agent of the estate upon the matter as opportunity serves, for it would be a great pity," said he, "to lose all trace of so interesting a bit of family history." Thero at present the matter must stand. However, I think it has now been fairly established, notwithstanding all the doubts thrown upon the authenticity of the tradition by Hutchins and others, that not only was the story as told of the "White Hart Silver": not an apocryphal or an improbable one, but that the fine, so arbitrarily imposed more than six centuries ago, has been paid up to, and has only been finally compounded for in, quite recent times. This effectually disposes of the suggestion contained in Mr. Heath's account that the custom had only "survived to the days of the Great Rebellion." J. S. UDAL, F.S.A. MEMBERS OF THE LONG PARLIAMENT. (12 S. iii. 299, 366.) 1. John Fielder, M.P. for St. Ives from circa April, 1647 (writ dated Feb. 9), till the Cromwellian dissolution, April, 1653.-He was of Borough Court, Hants, s. and h. of John Fielder of the same place by Alice, dau. and heir of William Cooke of Worpeden, Surrey (by Ann, eldest dau. of Sir George Tipping of co. Oxford, knight). Succeeded his father in the family estate in September, 1638. Sheriff of Hants, 1641-2. Took an active part on the Parliament side from the beginning of the Civil War, being at an early date appointed colonel of the local forces to be raised in Hants and Sussex. From January, 1642/3, till January, 1644/5, he was Governor of Portsmouth; and Governor of Farnham Castle from Apr. 5, 1645, until discharged Oct. 31 of the same year upon the fortifications of that castle being slighted by order of Parliament. By Parliamentary ordinance he was appointed in 1643 on the Assessment and Sequestration Committees for Hants, and also on that for the Associated Counties; and in the following year on the Committee for raising special forces in the county, on that for the General Assessment of East and West, and also for putting in Execution the Ordinances of Parliament. Though elected to Parliament in 1647, he took no active part in the proceedings of the House until 1649, doubtless because of military duties, and for the same reason was excused at the call of the House on Apr. 24, 1648. But between Feb. 20, 1649, and Mar. 1, 1653, he is named on no fewer than 104 Parliamentary committees, including the important Committees for maintaining a Preaching Ministry, Irish Affairs, for taking the Engagement, Goldsmiths' Hall Compounding, Plundered Ministers, and the Navy Committee. He was also a Commissioner in the Act for removing obstructions to the sale of bishops' lands, 1649; was on July 21, 1649, appointed colonel of five companies of foot and one troop of horse at Donington, his pay as colonel and captain of foot to be 1,1487. 11s. 1d. On Aug. 31, 1649, he was ordered to receive 1,2001. for his services as Governor of Portsmouth, and 1,1481. his arrears generally, to be paid out of concealed delinquent estates to be discovered by him; but this was ultimately ordered to be paid to him by the Committee for Compounding. Under the Commonwealth he was member of the third Council of State, 1651-2, and of the fifth Council, December, 1652, to April, 1653. Took no part in public affairs under the Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell, though he was elected for Castle Rising to the Parliament of Richard Cromwell, and He returned certainly sat in the same. with the Rumpers in May, 1659, and sat on one or two committees, being fined 5l. on After the Sept. 30 for non-attendance. second Restoration of the Rump in December he resumed his seat, and remained until the end of the Parliament in March, 1660, after which he disappears from history. I have failed to discover the date of his death. His wife was Margaret, eldest dau. of Sir John Trevor of Denbighshire, by whom he left issue. |